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This is a textbook argument on why coaches shouldn't wield personnel control

If we used our 1st on nothing it would at least come with the assurance that the team hadnt deluded itself into a false sense of security that they had addressed the QB position

I feel like we've got to worry about both the new in house QB coach and Joe Brady who quite demonstrably views this job as nothing more than a stepping stone stint actively campaigning for a guy who yields the easiest, quickest results for them

if this happens I am going to start to suspect that this is simply a poorly ran organization the Bridgewater signing was terrible, but it was, so far, an isolated incident this would be indicative of a trend

would seriously just rather not do anything with that pick at all

either I don't understand you or you dont understand me

so less than what we'd give up for Matt Stafford

you know what you could also get for a 1 and 2? The 3rd pick in the draft but id bet folding money if this indeed is the teams thought process, that they've convinced themselves of their own cleverness with the dream of shipping off a first for Stafford, "addressing" the QB position, and then shipping #8 overall off for some 5th wave prospect and another projected low value 1st or a couple 2s to replace the future 1 they gave up it's the definition of cutesy for a team that is in pretty solid positioning for a long term answer, it's what happens when you let math people make football decisions

I'd like to believe we're just trying to make Houston think there's a crunch to get a deal done with us but a stupid move like this that treats 1st round picks with wanton disregard is right in Seattle's wheelhouse

if this team gives up a 1st round pick for Matt Stafford I am done

I don't think he can nuke his way out, if he makes Houston look desperate, nobody is going to offer them much, and this is one of those scenarios where youd rather get nothing, at least for a little while, then face the embarrassment of a fire sale

Me, I did, just as I begged the team going into the offseason before Cam's final season here to be cognizant of the real possibility that it would be his final season and to stockpile a few draft picks for a deep QB class the following season Look, I am not saying I should be the general manager of the Carolina panthers I am just saying Justin Herbert would be our QB if I were

we warned tepper this would happen with the Bridgewater signing but like a small child *just has* to verify first hand that the stove is, indeed, hot, he just had to see it play out

top 10 phrases said just before disaster

I didn't realize there were only two options, thanks for enlightening me

Gantt is still stuck in this fox era view of panthers football where the ultimate goal is for the panthers to stay in their lane, make the sensible, safe, economical move and build a really scrappy roster that contends for a wild card spot

if there's one thing Darin Gantt us good at, it's having opinions that don't match NFL franchises'

you have absolutely no point of reference for this, and it really ultimately isn't about what he does, it's about what he should do

8 is well within trade up range

wow so you have no idea and want to stake the long-term success of our franchise on a hypothetical because you think we can get a couple seasons to "make some noise" I'm convinced, let's dig into those high value spots were now afforded the luxury of taking

and what pick are we gonna have when the time comes to transition

the source of every awful QB take on this board centers around "being economical" It's okay to get a terrible player like Sam darnold, as long as you don't have to give up a bunch, afterall, when the cap space and draft picks are factored into our W/L record at the end of the season, were gonna wanna be well off there The panthers need to spend big-they need to spend high draft picks, lots of them if necessary, and spend a whole lot of cap space if necessary as well Spend spend spend and get an elite franchise player

i also would relegate my "in budget" moves to the QB position

let some desperate team get Detroit's sloppy seconds

getting Stafford is the next phase of QB purgatory so many warned about when we signed Bridgewater next we'll use a high 2nd round pick on one