MasterAwesome

Every single excerpt you quoted mentions the concerns about his frame specifically with respect to taking hits lol not non-contact injuries. I’m guessing if a smaller player suffers a concussion in-game, you would attribute that to his frame too.

How are short jokes just light-hearted trolling, but calling Stroud fans "size whores" is being malicious and insufferable? You can't have it both ways...you're letting your biases cloud your judgment.

The difference between Bryce guys and CJ guys, is it seems like Bryce guys are hardcore all in on their guy...whereas the majority of posts from the CJ camp are more anti-Bryce than they are pro-CJ. I rarely see arguments for why we should pick CJ, but rather arguments for why we should not pick Bryce. May seem like a subtle difference, but one camp seems to believe in their guy much more than the other camp believes in their guy. I was leaning more heavily towards CJ over the last couple months as someone who doesn't watch a lick of college football (he just seems to check a lot of boxes), but when his own fans barely have anything nice to say about him other than "Bryce Young small", then it gives me a lot more pause lol.

Whatever happened to that report (not sure if substantiated) that Fitterer wasn't going to ask Reich who he wants at QB until 1-2 weeks before the draft or w/e. Either that was BS, or all these "Panthers all love _____ and are definitely taking him" reports are BS.

Yeah I get that, it's very possible the Panthers have a clear favorite. But the guy I quoted is basically saying Stroud is superior to Young in every single way possible. If that were true, you'd think public perception would even remotely reflect that, not only among media (who I know are flawed in their evaluations and often just piggyback off of what's trendy), but from actual scouts who evaluate prospects for a living. Instead, it seems like Young and Stroud are very much neck and neck by all accounts. I know I know, poor choice of expression...Bryce Young is tiny yadda yadda lol. The consensus seems to be that Stroud has his strengths and weaknesses, and Young has his strengths and weaknesses, hence why there's a genuine debate about which is objectively the better prospect. It'd be like if the narrative leading up to the 2021 draft was like "Who the heck are the Jaguars going to take?! Trevor Lawrence or Justin Fields??" when everyone knew they were taking Lawrence aside from a hot take here or there. If there's a QB prospect who is superior in virtually every way, then manufacturing an air of mystery surrounding which QB will be taken #1 overall would just come across as silly and cringe.

So Stroud is the better QB, better fit, bigger, taller, stronger, better arm, etc. - how is there even a debate for the first overall pick? Something doesn’t really add up.

Not only were they two different organizations, they were our very first two drafts in franchise history...almost 30 years ago. That would be quite a silly thing to be worried about with respect to the present day Panthers.

There's clearly a very pro-Young contingent and a very pro-Stroud contingent, so I don't understand why apparently only Young fanboys exist and not Stroud fanboys? You are both fanboys, just of different guys...

You seem to be wanting to downplay how good Burrow is, in order to make the Stroud comparison seem less absurd. Burrow is almost certainly by most accounts the 2nd best QB in the entire league after Mahomes. He's coming off of two consecutive dominant seasons statistically, while also carrying his team to a back-to-back Super Bowl and AFCCG. After three seasons has he not already solidified his place as a first ballot HOFer? Sure...I guess......what a bust lol. There's no scenario where comparing Young to Mahomes is absurd, but Stroud to Burrow is perfectly reasonable. Absurd vs. slightly less absurd? Sure maybe I'll give you that. And for the record I'm one of those in the "happy with either guy" camp but probably leaning slightly towards Stroud. Also who is actually saying Bryce is flat out a Mahomes clone? I usually only see it in the context of comparing very specifically their playmaking/improvisational abilities.

It's funny how apparently you're not allowed to compare any quality of Bryce Young to Mahomes or Brees, but CJ Stroud is totally the next Joe Burrow lol.

Even your modified breakdown of “bust” vs. “non-bust” I don’t think is particularly helpful. How many people here will be satisfied if we simply draft a “non-bust” at #1 overall after trading significant assets to move up? Would it be considered a success if we draft a Daniel Jones level QB with the #1 overall pick?

Remember how she was part of the coaching interviews and we soon after end up with an all-star coaching staff? LET HER COOK!* *(that’s an expression, not misogyny)

The CRA logic: because these not-even-crazy things happened, that means literally anything is a possibility. We gave a mediocre Ian Thomas a decent sized extension, therefore what if we cut Brian Burns and sign Nicole Tepper to play DE? IT'S POSSIBLE. Oh you think we won't draft a long-snapper with the 1st overall pick?? Well I present to you Exhibit A: we took a CB in the top 10 of the draft.....A CORNERBACK. Anything is possible. (Just remember that this time last year, he swore we were drafting Kenny Pickett at #8).

This may have been the most unintentionally hilarious defense of someone I've ever seen bless your heart, good sir.

Normally I roll my eyes at the whole "obsessing over who is following who on Instagram" thing...but in this case, if Adam Thielen truly did just start following Bryce Young on Instagram, I think that's kinda eye-opening. No doubt Thielen asked the Panthers' FO who they were leaning towards drafting at #1 (I think he even admitted as much)...of course he'd want to know who he's catching passes from, after all. They may not have given him a definitive answer one way or another, but it's plausible they hinted one way or another. That being said, I doubt the Panthers are locked in on any QB at this point. Surely they have their leanings, but there is plenty of time for things to change before the draft.

I have a feeling the Bills weren't too happy with their pick either. If the Little pick was an F grade, then Cody Ford was around a D-. He had a 41.2 PFF grade last year and his career best was a 53.8. I'm surprised he's even still getting signed somewhere but I can only imagine it's because he has experience at OT and OG (albeit he sucks at both).

To be fair, I don’t think any WR he signs from FA will be an upgrade over DJ Moore. A bit nit picky I know, but I’d say 7/22 is more accurate.

Hey compared to what we paid Ian Thomas, seems like a bargain lol.

This is a pretty compelling win for the "salary cap is just a myth" gang. It's gotta be a pretty massive contract...

I don't know anything about this guy and generally speaking I agree that RB is a devalued position which I'd be wary of overdrafting. But this kind of black-and-white thinking is what had a bunch of posters against drafting Micah Parsons because "I ain't drafting no damn LB in the first round!!" and we see how that turned out. Rather than overly harping on the position itself, I think it's more useful to evaluate each prospect individually and the entirety of their skillset and what they bring to the table.

This makes zero sense lol. The QB rating is a composite score that is simply calculated from all of the individual conventional QB metrics: passing yards, attempts, completions, TDs, INTs. If your argument is that Darnold didn't play enough to consider his QB rating, then can you explain why his completion percentage is fair game? How does his lack of playing time skew one and not the other, when one is calculated from the other?

So what happens if we do end up re-signing Darnold? Hell, we’re already reportedly having preliminary talks with him which should already set off alarms for you. Is this new highly touted coaching staff with universal league-wide respect, just a bunch of blind delusional buffoons or what? That’s the problem with taking these arrogant hard-line positions on how “obvious” it is that a player is trash - it becomes pretty awkward when a respected non-Rhule coaching staff ends up signing him.

Hey maybe we're grooming Nicole Tepper as our future GM....that's why she was included in the coaching search this season

You cannot say Darnold is on the level of Goff. Talent wise, sure...but Goff's production blows Darnold's out of the water. He definitely showed improvement last season but he hasn't had anywhere near a full season of competent QB play and Goff has had several, with two different coaching staffs.

Maybe so, but cutting a middle-of-the-road overpaid running back isn't really evidence of that. They already started giving more and more carries to their 3rd round rookie RB Rachaad White in the second half of the season so the writing was already on the wall for Fournette who had a pretty underwhelming season.