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Also you are trying to totally discount McAdoo by compaing that team to the previous year Giants. The offensive ranking is realtive to the other teams in the league. Alot of teams have quality #1 WRs. Also their PPG in 2014 was actually higher the games OBJ didn't play.

That is why I used YPT not YPC, that factors in Cruz's lower catch %. Their actually YPC is actually alot closer. I'm not failing at all, a player's stats don't happen in a vacuum. You can't say a RB adds an extra 1000 yards to a team on 200 carries. Another RB would have also rushing yards on those carries, you have to look at the difference between the two to decide the value the player is adding.

He averaged about 1.5 yards more a target than the #1 a year before and he got about 11 targets a game.

People need to quit taking everything said by a coach so literal. No team is pure BPA and no team is pure need. If the top 3 OTs are off the board do you still think we pick OT? I don't, and neither do you so they do look at value also. More times than not there is a player close enough in grade to justify need. My point was teams often view a small group of players in each draft as elite. Teams will sometimes ignore need somewhat to take one of those. I'm not saying we will, just that is how it happens sometimes. Also, fans think in terms of biggest need lining up with the 1st round pick. Teams go into a draft looking to fill several needs and sometimes do so in a order depending on how the draft falls.

OBJ didn't add an extra 1305 yards in a vacumm. If he wasn't there a different receiver would have received targets. You have to decide how many extra yards he produced over what his replacement would have had. OBJ defientaly helped but I think it is a bit of a stretch to attribute all of the improvement to OBJ and none to McAdoo. .

A CB sounds crazy but here is how it could happen. Fans tend to think in terms of need and rank. Basically, OT is our biggest need (non-QB) so we should take whatever OT is next on the list and available, in this case it would be OT3 on Daniel's list. Teams tend to think in terms of grade. Maybe we have a really high grade on OT1 and OT2 but a decent gap to OT3. If OT1 and OT 2 go before us they might decide CB1 is a way better value. In a perfect world you would trade down and line up value with need, but trading down isn't always easy. I'm not saying its the right move, but i could see it happening. Same thing with the safety. Any given year there is just really small group of players that teams consider elite prospects, its hard to pass on them. Do you pass on a guy that you think can become the next Sean Taylor for an OT that think has a decent chance to be above average? Here again, I'm not saying this is the correct way to draft, but its what happens.

He should be healthy by then. If you trade him after June 1st you would actually save $8.6m. Even you trade him before June 1st it would only add $4.2m to this year's cap, not ideal but not impossible to absorb. For a team trading for him his contract is actually decent, we have already paid his signing bonus. Christian McCaffrey Contract Breakdowns, Salary Cap Figures, Salaries, Bonuses | Spotrac Next team would basically get him for 4yrs/44m. With only $8.1m guaranteed. Would a team trade for CMC for 1yr for $8.6m? 2 yrs for $20.4m. Since the little guaranteed money there is all in the first year it is a basically a pay as you go contract for the next team. Is $8-11m a year really outlandish for one of the best dual threat players in the league, especially for a team that thinks they are close to winning it all? To put that in perspective Robby's cap hit next year is $16.8m. Robby Anderson Contract Breakdowns, Salary Cap Figures, Salaries, Bonuses | Spotrac You could almost say CMC is a bargain for someone.

We are picking 6th this year with an OL that can't get much worse, a QB that can't get much worse, and one of our best offensive weapons might play more this year. Also if you reverse our one score games this year (switch the wins to losses and losses to wins) we would have been 9-8 and probably made the playoffs. You can't reverse them, and maybe we aren't good enough to win close games but it shows how close teams are. This is college football, the line between winning and losing is a lot smaller than fans realize. I'm not saying we are going to be a good football team but I would count on us having the #1 pick.

ask me in a year

why?

yes we can

Campen is interesting also. 10 years with the same team (Packers) as an OL coach. James Campen - Wikipedia Houston Texans OL coach James Campen is featured in NFL Films segment narrated by QB Aaron Rodgers. Apparently during his time with the Packers they were the only team to have 6 different offensive lineman voted to the Pro-Bowl.

If we assume Young is going 1st I would say no. I would dare say there is a better chance of us drafting outside of the top-10 than us drafting 1st.

Everyone seems to be focused on his time at the Giants but he spent a good bit of time with the Packers. From what I can tell he was on the Packers staff from 2006 to 2013. He definitely has "NFL" experience and has been around some very successful organizations. All of that might not mean anything in the long run but at least he is the opposite of what we had. Big question for me is how much latitude he is given with the offensive staff, especially the offensive line.

Same. Fact is his resume was as good or better than most guys we could have chose from.

He spent 8 years with Aaron Rodgers and 4 with Eli Manning, at least he has been around some good QBs. Might amount to nothing but it can't hurt.

From 2006-2013 he was either the TE or QB coach for GB. I realize he didn't call plays and they had a pretty good QB but their PPG ranking those years were, 23,4,11,3,9,2,6,7. At least he has been around good offenses. I'm trying to be positive here. His first two years as an OC, in 2014 and 2015 their rankings were 11 and 13. Granted he struggled as a HC but for the most part he has always been on staff for some really good offenses.

Same could be said about hiring a NFL coach with a defensive background. One of the arguments for hiring an offensive minded coach, that you really don't have to worry as much about losing your play caller.

I really don't understand what people were expecting. When you are looking for an OC you can't really expect some other "rockstar" OC to take a lateral move, those guys are looking for HC jobs. For an OC opening your candidate pool is either ex HC/OCs who have probably done bad the past few years or unproven position coaches, such as some QB coach. I'm not saying this guy is going to work out, but he actually has NFL experience being an OC, and actually has had a few decent years doing so. Alot of these position coaches lack the actual experience that we complain about Rhule's staff not having. Eiter way none of this is going to matter if we don't improve the offensive line and get better QB play.

I agree he has a pretty good arm but its a bit of a stretch to say he has most NFL throws out of all all the prospects based on a highlight video. According to this: 2022 NFL Mock Draft: Carolina Panthers select QB Sam Howell at No. 6, New Orleans Saints land Ole Miss QB Matt Corral at No. 16 | NFL Draft | PFF Howell actually leads all of the QBs for most big time throws over the last 3 years.

People that criticize Pickett need to be consistent and not criticize Rhule over his arm length comments.

I can agree it can be concerning but the question that the evaluators have to answer is was it because he was slow to process or because he knew his OL could give him ample time. The little bit I watched of him his O-line seemed to do a really good job.

Right now my money for next year would be either High draft pick LT, BC or FA, Elflein, BC or FA, Moton or BC, Draft Pick/FA, Elflein, Draft Pick/FA, Moton Also, I wouldn't get your hopes about Brown solidifying the RG spot. It would save us some resources, but he was a late round pick for a reason.

Everybody wants to complain about the versatility comments by Rhule but the day Erving and Elflein were signed it was pretty obvious that Erving was signed to be the day 1 starter at LT and that Elflein was slotted to start at LG with the possibility of transitioning to center in 2022.

My comment was directed at those that say you should wait a year to draft a QB because it will be a better class of QBs. If that is true you are going to need a higher draft pick so why are you trying to improve the team. Thise two mindsets are counter productive.