electro's horse

we literally just fuged this up. like a year and a half ago. it just happened.

if canales can't bench bryce tha this is basically his career. he'll never be a head coach again i know tears in heaven cry all the way to the bank etc but he's obliterating his credibility. maybe he doesnt care and thats fine but the dude has no legitimacy right now

First, to everyone that says the Panthers need to start him to secure the number 1 pick. I agree Bryce young playing 17 games guarantees that, but I disagree with everythingelse. 1. Bryce isn't surviving 17 games 2. There is more to a season than winning the super bowl or getting the first over all pick 3. Tepper JUST fuged up the number 1 overall; no reason to expect he wouldn't do it again 4. It is discourse poison. People on here got so excited by Bryce BECAUSE he was the number 1 pick and would not shut up about him even when it was clear from the jump it wasn't going to work out. I don't want to fuging go through all this again for like Carson Beck. Alright, that said, why do we need to bench or cut Bryce 1. Player development/evaluation - on offense, it's impossible to fairly evaluate anyone because of what Bryce is doing. I've brought this up multiple times, and only the coaches know for certain, but you can't tell me some of the oline issues last year weren't because of Bryce's "drop back." How do you block for someone you can't see when you have no idea where he actually is? Additionally, you have resources tied up in young players, specifically XL, and you will learn nothing about them this year. Bryce can't make it past his first read and defenses know this. They're getting practice reps and game experience sure, but does anyone think XL is gonna go up for a catch this year that matters? On the other side of the ball, what do you know about your young pass rushers? Teams are going to be running out the clock on the Panthers all year. This is a complete wash on the defense. 2. Player safety - if Bryce doesn't get hurt, someone else will. He threw two check down hospital balls in garbage time today. If his interception wasn't such an easy pick, there was a defender there to light up the receiver. Whichever receiver ended up catching it, i don't understand that route at all and it makes me think it's just intended as a decoy. It's a dangerous game and I get it, but the receivers have to know that the QB isn't going to be leading them into a brick wall. Bryce is going to get someone killed. 3. Organizational integrity - the panthers are not a serious organization right now. Other teams have bad owners, other teams have bad coaches, other teams have bad players. The panthers are trotting out someone at the most important position who does not have the physical prerequisites to play at any position, and has shown he can't complete the required basics. What he did at Alabama doesn't matter. What the Panthers gave up for him doesn't matter. At this point you cannot say the Panthers are focused on winning games. You cannot say the Panthers are focused on the future. The Panthers need to focus on becoming a competitive football organization and staying in games however they can. The Saints curb stomped them. The Chargers were nice today. On TV, LA looked like a team that knew it didn't need to do much to beat the Panthers. If the Panthers keep trotting Bryce out there, they will have nothing to build on week after week. Again, a lot of you only think "Super Bowl or 1st overall pick." Think of how many players from the 2003 team were drafted in the 90s. That team wasn't just Julius Peppers and Jake Delhomme. How many key players on the 2015 team were there with Fox? Again, there was more to that team than Cam and Luke. With the way the organization is right now, how do you develop Mike Rucker? Where is Thomas Davis coming from? Do we know if we have a Josh Norman? Are we going to figure out if Brady Christensen is actually Ryan Kalil? The team is so bad right now we have no idea. And the one player that developed here out of nowhere, Frankie Luvu, was allowed to walk so the team would have cap space to try to help Bryce. (I'm still bitter about that and just throwing it out there.) Another thought; whomever the top QB prospect ends up being, if you were his father, would you let him go to Carolina? Of course not. 4. Coach - How do you judge Canales right now? I would argue you can't but that it doesn't matter. He was unqualified when he was hired and he's shown why no other teams wanted an interview. Regardless, how can you actually evaluate him given these circumstances? And how can you expect him to try to get players to buy if he's not allowed to bench Bryce? All we know about this guy is he's starting Bryce for SOME REASON (reasonable people can speculate) and he's announced he's going to start him next week. This is to say nothing about the next coach. Are we still going to be going through this charade? Is the next coach going to be an even bigger whisperer? i don't want to fuging hear about the first round pick; that's a stupid argument. i don't want to hear about developing bryce; that poo has sailed. I just want to see a team that can actually compete and try to find reasons to be optimistic for next season.

i mean unless we're fine consistently runnin git on third and long (and believe me, i am) bryce is going to have to execute basic nfl plays. and he showed again today he's unable to do that. i mean that one roll out to the left where he air mailed diontae johnson was just inexcusable. that's a pass your fat drunk uncle can make. im still laughing at his rollout sack, and i cannot wait for the all 22 on that. the WR was double covered, he motined for him to go deep, then just like....decided to get murdered by a defender.

lol we're so fuging done

lmao if bryce struggled with booze i wish he'd lost his fight

mmmmhm

100% agree

lofty goals for dave

yes he will be he is an alabama qb who won a national championship and a cfpoty. the panthers passed on cj stroud for him, after sending multiple picks and dj moore, including a pick that became caleb williams. to say nothing about the other picks. whether or not the panthers are an afterthought is irrelevant. bryce is a historic fugup and we will be associated with him until people stop talking about football or professional sports

reich benched bryce which is more than we're going to be able to say about canales

adam found a new brown paper bag in his locker after this game.

ive seen people coming off fent rubbing their arms less than this

you wouldn't grill a toddler this hard about stealing cookies he is fuging done

jesus turning heroin into hgh like

Defense was playing today. Evero is a good coach. And this is without Luvu and Jackson. you cannot start him again.

Damn Bible study shade cuts deep

https://x.com/sheena_marie3/status/1835413010606960729?s=46&t=JBd6ZXmGQ3LmWL-ineTnAA you have to fuging release him if all he can say is he trusts in the lord he’s done

https://x.com/sheena_marie3/status/1835413010606960729?s=46&t=JBd6ZXmGQ3LmWL-ineTnAA I am not trying to be disrespectful to members on this board who are religious. I am not saying any snarky comment and believe me I’ve got plenty. He’s done. We’re done here

I agree. 51 other starters. I don’t know how Canales can even look them in the eye.

Great games.

Alabama fans. im serious.

Little jump pass

Hey where did we land on this?

/places envelope to head