Toomers

Wow! Seriously? Turning that down is the tradition of incompetence that this organization prides itself in.

Next time put my name on this post and we can see who can back up what they say. Nice timing and….

At all huh? Yep, we’re done here. And Reddick(or similar player) 3/45M Burns 5/125M That’s 30M for the first 3years. If they don’t pay him more.

How so? If Burns is less of a liability against the run than Reddick, it ain’t by much. Reddick could be replaced by those 1st rounders and/or the 30-45M the team saved by not overpaying Burns.

We’ll see.

That’s there choice. But it doesn’t make him more valuable. They have to give him a chunk of guaranteed money they don’t have. Do you expect to receive a similar offer this off-season? That’s the question. If the desperate, win now Rams offered what people are saying is equivalent to a 2nd and a 3rd in 2023, with a half season at almost free, what are the offers to pay him going to be then?

Until the other team decides to run at Burns. The Reddick question is valid.

That cheap for this year is why the Rams offered at all. He easily fits into salary table without making room by cutting/restructuring other players. Why did no other teams offer more significant assets.

As opposed to the 31 teams that could/could have traded for a cheap version of him this year. And didn’t.

So you think other teams will offer two firsts, or something similar, for Burns again. One desperate team offered future 1sts. And he’s cheap now. Where were all these other teams if he will always have high demand?

And then he holds out and forces a trade where other teams know the team has to get rid of him.

How are they going to get a nicer offer now? The Rams wanted him cheap(1M) this year. His value went down when the deadline passed.

Should I have asked permission on what to post?

And this is the perfect example of CTE flawed logic in devaluing future picks automatically. Moves like this made out of desperation almost always go poorly. The Saints has to have a cheap, quality replacement for Armstead. And a lower first round salary is all they could afford. Now they are not only out next year’s 1st(top 10?) but all those other picks. The Eagles took advantage. The Panthers chose not to.

I think it’s almost shut now. They are in trouble. I’d bet right now those will be top 15 picks easy. For a very good pass rusher who is scheme specific and a liability against the run that will cost 22-24M/yr.

So the Giants would have been better off taking pick 39 in the 2021 draft than taking a next year’s 1st which wound up being 7th overall. Those Rams picks can be used to acquire other players at any time as well. If your GM is making deals with self- preservation in mind, and not what’s the best value for the team, there is already much bigger issues.

Yep. It was more like a intense walk than jogging.

Then it goes down for everybody. And there were deals out there during the ONE year it went down. In 2015, Cam was one of the highest paid at 21/yr. Now there are how many making 40-50M/yr. The cap hasn’t doubled. But top salaries at most positions have.

2011 can’t be a cap hell year if that’s the same off-season they signed all those players. 2012 they still had plenty to give ANOTHER RB a big contract. 2013 was a collection of bottom-level FAs. 2014 was the same plus lost more players. 2015 had DLOs 10M dead cap hit. And a DE in CJ with a 20M cap hit for a part time player. That’s over 20% of their cap on those two. When the cap goes up, salaries go up. It’s not some advantage any team gets.

Seems something else happened in those years. Besides the same amount of playoff appearances in 5 years that this franchise has had in the other 18.

Just trying to keep up. One list has Beason, who was gone already. Another Hardy and Norman. One who was only here two games after 2013. The other barely played in 2013.

Josh Norman rode the bench in 2013. The only thing Beason did was leave a 13M dead cap hit after being traded to the NYG for a 7th. Stewart had 180 yds that year with a huge contract. The picks on the iDL were rookies. How did they develop…finally?

2013 had numerous restructuring just to pay who they had. All those same elite players led to 7-9, 6-10, 2-14 before that. Putting actual talent around them for the bare minimum was the start to winning.

It’s nowhere near as bad as the 2013 cap hell.

And it’s never a problem when I’m defending a Panthers player or move. Just when I disagree with people who make up their own version of the truth.