Toomers

Good for you. What does the 2018 WR group have anything to do with a playoff appearance? Olsen had 291 yds that year. Does that mean he wasn’t as good as Mims? Is it stats?

Of course it is.

It is the only team that will put you on the field is the Panthers. Ginn not only didn’t play before getting here, he chased the money to ARI, and produced less than a catch a game. Then 2015, a QB won MVP with that same player as his WR1. Add in a rookie Funchess, the slowest WR in the NFL, and an UDFA. I’ll take that Jets group over most of Cams groups. The Panthers played in a playoff game with a 60% Funchess and 4 PS WRs.

Oh me. Ginn wasn’t a part of the team until 2013. Cams 3rd. And had started 3 games in 3 years for a 49er team desperately needing WR. Hixon caught 7 passes. As a Panther. Total. Olsen just got traded for a 3rd. Far from his prime.

An NFL team gave a 2nd and a 5th for Josh Rosen last year. Doesn’t mean the league all thought highly of him. Cam Newton and Winston got 1M. Just shows it was a bad move. Just no risk with Cam and Jamie’s.

While I can see that point, what does it matter 4 years into their careers. Trubisky has at least been very good(and bad) instead of just average and bad.

Not even close. I don’t care one bit about him. But fail to see how he wouldn’t have been as good a choice at much less compensation and risk.

In what way? It sure isn’t performance in the NFL.

Which begs the question of why not take a chance on Trubisky for 3M and no draft picks as opposed to Darnold.

I’ve never said anything about knowing what anyone in the Panthers organization wants or thinks. I questioned the decision they made. And gave specific reasons for it. Yet not one person can come up with a benefit of it. Where I gave many why it’s a bad one. Are you saying that Rhule and Fitt can’t be questioned? It’s usually the only reason you slink in and out of any thread. Someone’s being mean to my team Hurney was in the NFL for most of 3 decades. Does that mean no one should have questioned him? Now, run along and complete the hit and run as usual.

They should chisel that on your headstone. It’s your standard statement when you are incapable of defending your reality.

It’s not an opinion at all to say the Panthers just committed 19M more to Darnold with little to no upside. If there was any you would have posted it. That’s a fact. All I asked for was one thing. Yet you couldn’t even do that. That depends on your definition of sad. Pointing out something factual to pop a homer balloon from someone who called you out. Then have that person not be able to defend his point at all is very sad. And typical.

That’s not a reason at all. If he’s a complete flop as he has been are you starting him next year because they gave a 2nd for him? I don’t think so. No effort involved. I can site actual numbers and facts and you make up theories like the one above. It’s your calling card of ignorance and has been for a long time.

I’ve only specifically talked about the option. You threw the bait out there. Yes or no? I answered. As I have before. You know exactly why you made that post. Problem is, you still can’t find a benefit of exercising it. But still claim that anyone who thought otherwise was wrong to even suggest it. I don’t know if he’s going to be good or not. But I sure as hell wouldn’t have committed 19M more to it without any real upside for for doing it. You keep on deflecting but it’s simple to see who knows what we are discussing. All that effort and you still got nothing to back it up. It’s just gotten sad.

That’s been obvious for years. Anyone that disagrees with you, bores you. And when you can’t respond, much like this situation, you deflect to this ole classic to take the focus off the real issue. You don’t have a clue. If it wasn’t for copy/paste you wouldn’t even exist. I’m sure this is much easier than giving any reason at all for exercising that 5th year option. If it was such an obviously good move, I would think there would be many. But it’s easier to attack me than make up stuff that doesn’t exist to support your statement.

Of course not. It took me one post to show that your statements were garbage. You still haven’t provided ANYTHING to back up your comments. Just blaming me to avoid the issue. And I can make that statement because the proof is all on here. Pick a move. Pick a decision. Let’s see how I thought it would go, and then see what happened after. Then we can do the current staff. It isn’t surprising people with knowledge tends to bore you. It’s much easier for those who are clueless to just believe what they need to believe. Just create your own reality. Well done.

You can always say so. You just can’t provide any logical reason for why it’s stupid and uninformed? I’m the one begging you to post anything that is a benefit of this. I’ve given reasons many times. If I’m so stupid and uninformed this should be easy. Yet you still can’t. Typical. Same as always. “Because someone said so” is your basis for every point. Nots facts. Not common sense. And certainly not actual football knowledge. If you had any you wouldn’t have to cling to every word you read on the internet.

So I, nor anyone, should question them. With multiple valid reasons? You acted like saying they shouldn’t have done it a some ridiculous notion. Yet you can’t/won’t give a reason. Not one benefit. You can talk around it all you want but you called people like me out. I simply responded. Fields will make about 20M total in the next four years. Darnold(like a rookie) will make that next year alone. And he might not be the starter. He’s like a rookie in that his game hasn’t gotten better since he got to the NFL.

And proud of it. I don’t have the homeristic view you possess. Want to go take for take on past moves? What makes your take so correct that no one should question it? You like Darnold. I think he’s a mistake to commit anything to. Care to tell me anything I’ve been wrong about the last couple years. I don’t have to post random internet writers to make a point. Tell me all the reasons it was a good idea to commit 20M more to a QB who has sucked. I have given plenty of reasons why not?

It still makes no sense to pick it until up. Come January this board will be having the same discussion as this year. Why did we guarantee so much money to a QB who has never even been average before. Another 20M wasted and still searching for a QB. What are they saving by exercising it. And where’s this plan to eat some this year. Which accomplished nothing and was never an option. I’ll put my track record against the Panthers staff.so far. Anytime. Or the old one. Another off season of striving for average. at best.

As a Steelers fan, when they passed on Marino was the first time I said “fudge” in front of my Dad. He agreed and let it slide. I became a Dolphins fan immediately.

I saw that as well and it can’t be correct. It’s 5.3M total. 2.6 this year and next. There is no scenario I know of where a team can put the whole amount on the. next year. It’s actually 5.3M this year until June 1st when they get that 2,6M from next year back to use now.

Don’t forget that Paradis and Reddick will cost 13.2M for their voidable years. Shaq will cost 18M(or 12 to cut). I don’t think wasting cap space is a tradition the Panthers are likely to stop anytime soon. At least from the looks of things.

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Probably because the Panthers have ONE year to bring out something he hasn’t shown before. Then, even in the best case scenario he would get expensive. The rookie QBs have have 4 cheap years for a team to build around whatever they become. Darnold is a lower risk, draft capital wise. But comes at a much less reward as well.