Mr. Scot

In scenario two, we get a first back. Net loss is only one pick.

Fair point.

Brugler's scenario also includes next year's first.

Not if they really don't want to trade him. General consensus is they're not just trying to drum up offers. They really mean it.

Actually, the original source on that was other teams. When it was first mentioned, Tom Pelissero called around to a bunch of teams to ask about it. They all said nobody from the Texans was picking up or returning their calls. I suppose they might be listening to their voicemails but hey... I forget who it was but someone else pointed out that Caserio spent a lot of years watching Bill Belichick say no to people. He's said to be of the same mindset. (given that he seems to be sweeping out anybody who might disagree with him that's not hard to believe)

They may be fast, but they wouldn't be anywhere near as skeered as me

No. We made that offer trying to get Peyton. Sorry. I'm a tad frazzled today

We tried. Bill Polian actually revealed what the Panthers offered for the number one pick a little while back. I don't remember the details but it was substantial. Edit: Sorry, that was for Peyton Manning, not Luck.

That's not the source for the story. This is: I'd agree it's a little vague, but given what we know it's not really that hard to believe they've at least made an initial inquiry.

His performance in the playoff game he started certainly earned him some consideration.

I know I'm nowhere near as fast as I used to be when I was young, but if I were being chased by a 300 pound defensive lineman, you might be surprised how fast I could go.

Focusing on the big picture would probably help. One of the big facepalms I always used to have when people were talking about Hurney was folks saying "but he drafted this great player" or "he made that great trade", after which I'd say "Yes but we still didn't win jack so what difference does it make?" I've seen teams have offseasons that looked like refried monkey sh-t, yet somehow they were better when they hit the field. Likewise, I've seen teams make offseason moves that made people drool, only to turn around and miss the playoffs by a mile. They're going to make questionable moves, miss on draft picks, fail to resign free agents and overpay others. I can live with that. It's how we look at the end of the season that matters.

Over the course of the season, I don't know that a lot of people were. Poor performances in big games like Northwestern and Alabama made people nervous though, and it's reasonable that they would.

I don't necessarily think it's a bad deal for a backup. Concerns people might have about his ability to stay healthy though are pretty well warranted.

Ryan Tannehill did a lot to help with that. I feel fairly certain that if Darnold does wind up traded, Tannehill's name will be mentioned by the team that trades for him.

No, but there's a reasonable expectation that the Texans could want an established quarterback as part of any trade package. That's been the engine behind some of the speculation about the Texans and Carson Wentz.

Fair point. Same standard applies though.

My biggest question: Would the Jets be willing to part with Darnold prior to the draft if they think there's a possibility the Texans might change their mind about trading Watson?

That's a new one. Normally would have expected Michael Scott, Shia LaBeouf or Darth Vader for that sentiment.

Marty signing a guy with a propensity to get injured?

Send me a message. I can give you a great deal on a time machine.

Wouldn't bet on it. I don't doubt that we'd legitimately check. Thing is that shouldn't be taken to mean we're ready to trade a huge load of picks for him.

Apparently Tepper didn't. Would love to someday hear more about the process but if that happens at all, it'll probably be a while.

It's been mentioned before, but "in on every deal" was always likely to include some that fans aren't gonna like.

I'll grant I could change my opinion between now and The Draft, but right now the thought of trading up for any of the three potential targets everybody's talking about scares the hell out of me. They all have concerns that make me very nervous.