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  1. Charles Robinson writes about the mistakes David Tepper has made so far as owner of the Panthers, and what he (hopefully) might have learned from them. From Matt Rhule flop to missing on Matthew Stafford, Panthers' David Tepper is paying hefty price for lessons in NFL ownership The article includes a few things we hadn't really heard before. It's a long but informative and fascinating read. I highly recommend checking out the whole thing. Here are some pertinent excerpts: _______________ As the cameras rolled, Tepper relayed his belief in a fundamental truth that would guide the ownership-driven carnage stretching the next three-plus years. All anyone needed to do was listen to what Tepper was saying and trust that he meant it. “For me, everything is — I really do believe this — this league is set to be an 8-8 league,” Tepper said into the camera. “Everything is fair in this league. So if you have better coaches, better GMs, some advantages with the training, management process, analytics, whatever that is to give you an edge, that’s what you need.” Tepper then smiled and let out a chuckle. “And you need a good quarterback,” he said. ... Better facilities? The $800 million Rock Hill practice complex was controversially killed by Tepper and is now embroiled in a bankruptcy fight between his real estate company and the city. Better coaches? Following Monday’s firing of Matt Rhule, Tepper has now been through two head coaches and is on his second interim head coach with Steve Wilks. And if Wilks doesn’t permanently land the job, Tepper will be setting off to hire his fifth head coach in five seasons as franchise owner. Better general managers? Fitterer is Tepper’s second, including Marty Hurney, who he inherited with the franchise in 2018 and fired in December 2020. If Tepper pursues a new head coach who wants his own GM, it’s possible he’s on to his third. Better management process? Tepper has fired both Ron Rivera and Rhule in-season. He also fired Hurney with two games left on the schedule. And of course, there’s the quest of better quarterbacks, which might be the most fundamentally problematic issue in Tepper’s short tenure. Not one has worked out as hoped. Not Cam Newton or Kyle Allen or Teddy Bridgewater or Sam Darnold. And thus far, not Baker Mayfield, either. That’s five shots at five starters in five years. That’s hundreds of millions of dollars squandered in the plug-pulling pursuit of better, with nothing tangibly better in the win column to show for it. ... First, there has to be an accounting of what happened during Rhule’s tenure, which is best described as a journey that ended with a dashboard full of screaming red lights. It wasn’t just one thing. It was many. That isn’t unusual when you’re merging a new team owner with a first-time NFL head coach and a first-time general manager. Any one of those individuals usually breaks something as they learn. Put three of them together and it can turn into a carnival attraction with glass bumper cars. Rhule’s tenure had plenty of those moments. There’s little doubt that he’d take back some of the news conference metaphors. Or that he leaves the NFL frustrated over coaching staff mistakes and the inability to craft any kind of consistent offense. ... Compared to many NFL exits, it has lacked the bitterness and vitriol that often accompanies failure. That’s because Rhule and virtually everyone else knows that while the percentages of responsibility might differ from one person to the next, nobody is totally blameless. All of that said, there is one underlying thread of agreement from the people who are most important in the Panthers' equation. Whether it’s Tepper, Fitterer or Rhule, they’d all agree that things might have gone differently if the quarterback spot could have been resolved. For a progression of reasons, it never happened. And that’s also the fault of multiple people and traces back to only a few decisions that undercut the franchise. ... First: The Teddy Bridgewater signing was a financial mistake that was hard for Tepper to get over. He listened to Hurney and Rhule, and ended up feeling like he vastly overpaid for nothing more than a borderline average quarterback. The responsibility for that stuck to Rhule and never went away. It impacted a level of trust in Rhule’s judgement. Second: For all intents and purposes, the Panthers had a trade structure worked out for Matthew Stafford during the 2021 Senior Bowl. Carolina was at the front of the line with a package that centered on the eighth overall pick in the draft. Detroit Lions general manager Brad Holmes was receptive to doing the deal. And then as suddenly as it looked like the Panthers were in position to close the trade, Carolina hit the brakes. Tepper wanted more information on Stafford’s medical history. In particular, he was concerned about Stafford’s previous back injury and wanted to be certain he wasn’t walking into another bad quarterback situation. That hesitation was exactly what the Los Angeles Rams needed. Rams general manager Les Snead and head coach Sean McVay seized on it to sway Stafford, and within two days Detroit and Los Angeles closed the deal. ... Third: After watching the Rams acquire Stafford, the Panthers were prepared to trade three first-round draft picks and multiple third-rounders to the Houston Texans for Deshaun Watson in February of 2021. This was prior to the civil litigation being filed against Watson in March. It was a fruitless effort regardless. The Texans weren’t taking any trade offers for Watson at the time. Once litigation over sexual assault allegations surfaced, Carolina’s Watson interest evaporated and wouldn’t resurface until March of 2022, when it became apparent Watson wouldn’t face criminal charges. ... In totality, all of this was a layering of problems that compounded over time. Bridgewater was a mistake Tepper held against Rhule. That played into part of the team owner’s hesitation over Stafford. And once Stafford was off the table and Watson was facing legal trouble, the remaining options were either veteran reclamation projects or rolling the dice on a rookie who might take years to develop. While there were a variety of other factors that became issues during Rhule’s tenure — notably an offensive line that fell apart — none complicated or exacerbated the team’s problems more than the inability to solve a QB problem that existed from the very start of Tepper’s ownership. ... Early in Tepper’s ownership of the Panthers, one prominent agent remarked of Tepper after their first meeting: “He’s a pretty salty, confident guy. I like him. He’s got balls.” Viewed through that prism, Tepper’s initial investment in Rhule still makes sense, even looking back through the failure. It was a relatable East Coast guy who had made Temple a realistic threat in college football in a short span, and who then turned around Baylor practically on a dime coming out of one of the worst scandals in college football history. ... Once that investment began to falter, which was basically almost instantaneously with the Bridgewater signing, there was a flip side to Tepper that we should have seen coming. We’ve learned this over the past three years: Once something is not working, Tepper isn't going to drag it around forever. Sometimes moving on from a bad investment takes priority over staring at it and wondering why it broke down. And let’s be honest: Tepper’s decisions on the back end have largely made sense. Bridgewater has proven to be exactly the low-ceiling starter Tepper thought he was. If he wasn’t, he would have stuck with the Denver Broncos. And you can say the same for the rest of the quarterback merry-go-round of the past five years. Cam Newton’s health was washed. Kyle Allen was a never-was. Sam Darnold was fundamentally flawed and Baker Mayfield might be, too. ... All of which leaves the Stafford moment. If Rhule someday looks back on his stint in Carolina and laments anything, it would be understandable if it was failing to land Stafford when he was in reach. That also doesn’t mean Tepper asked the wrong question. If anything, many franchise owners would be leery about giving up a consequential trade package for a player who had a significant back injury. Especially when they know that a lucrative contract extension was eventually going to be part of the acquisition. Hesitating in the NFL and erring on the side of caution can be costly. It’s how you end up with a fading veteran like Daunte Culpepper rather than a future Hall of Famer like Drew Brees. That happens sometimes. The key is learning from the mistake. ... We’ll see what Tepper ultimately learns from all of this. Much like the future pieces of the puzzle that he courts, he might want to go back and watch the final four minutes of the finale of Carolina’s “All or Nothing” docuseries. Maybe take a moment to ponder that car ride to Rock Hill, when everything seemed full of possibilities. Watch the closing scene, which featured a shot of Tepper riding off into the forest to blaze a path to a headquarters that went horribly wrong. Better facilities. Better coaches. Better GMs. Better quarterbacks. NFL history is littered with franchises that found themselves hypnotized by the track forward: focused ahead, insistent on plowing over one mistake after another. All the while, never contemplating whether they might have been opening a hole beneath themselves. That has been Carolina for the past few years. Now Tepper has to find his way out of it. _______________ Wow A lot to unpack but one thing seems clear. The deal with Teddy Bridgewater had a much larger effect on the franchise than any one of us may have known. We all talked about how Tepper badmouthed Bridgewater after that season. Turns out he might not have only been talking about Teddy.
  2. I have a hard time imagining the Steelers parting ways with Tomlin. Besides the fact that they typically don't do that, he's got an awful lot of good will built up there. Heck, at this point he's arguably the most powerful guy in the building outside of ownership. That said, anything can happen.
  3. Doesn't really matter much for position coaches that are focused on skills and techniques. It's the coordinators running the systems that have to worry about that sort of thing. On that front, I'd say Holcomb is fine. Kitchens and/or Chudzinski? Probably depends on what they're doing at their respective colleges. Mind you though, these are only a few potential candidates. There will definitely be more, especially once you know what other teams are parting ways with their head coaches. If, for example, Detroit were to decide they needed to go in a new direction...
  4. Yeah…wouldn’t put money on that. New Orleans still owns his rights and they’re not gonna let that happen.
  5. This thread was about next year, specifically who Wilks might hire if he could choose his own staff. Barring some major turnaround, I seriously doubt McAdoo would be retained in that scenario.
  6. It’s no plug. I’m not a Chudzinski fan. I’m strictly looking at people that have a previous connection to Wilks and are potentially available. That said, I’d likely take Chudzinski over McAdoo.
  7. Dorsey and Shane Steichen both have previously worked with Steve Wilks.
  8. Pretty sure this is the only "Steve Wilks perma-coach" thread I've started.
  9. Got curious and decided to look it up... Kitchens - 47 Chudzinski - 54 Scott Turner - 40 Cam Turner - 35 Zampese - 55 Wilson - 61 Nixon - 47 Proehl - 54 Henry - 50 Campen - 58 Kugler - couldn't find it but he ain't 65 Holcomb - 51 Mills III - 44 Rivera - 60 Pagano - 55 Walker - 61 Dishman - 57 Tabor - 51 For the record, Pasqualoni is 73. The only other guy who'd be in that range is pass rush specialist Don Johnson. Couldn't find his age but he's been coaching since 1977.
  10. That's a genuine possibility. It's also true though that a lot of former head coaches like to step back and take lesser, low pressure jobs in the latter part of their careers. I could see Rivera doing that as well, especially to help out an old friend. And heaven knows he enjoyed living in Charlotte. (the city actually liked him and Mrs Riv pretty well too)
  11. I didn't think of it till too late but there's another name I probably should have included among the potential secondary coaches. Former Panthers safety Mike Mitchell is currently an assistant Defensive Backs Coach with the Colts.
  12. Possible, but if so, Pagano is a good choice.
  13. It’s a huge long shot, but I’d genuinely be excited to see what a staff like this could do.
  14. So if Steve Wilks were able to land the permanent Panthers head coaching job,. what might a staff of his choosing look like? Looking back at some of Wilks’ prior connections and cross referencing with guys who are or might be available for a 2023 staff, here are some options: OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR Freddie Kitchens: Senior Offensive Analyst - University of South Carolina (lousy head coach but good OC; worked with Wilks in Cleveland) Rob Chudzinski: Special Assistant to the Head Coach - Boston College (acquainted from way back in their San Diego days; popular with Panther fans) QUARTERBACK COACH Scott Turner: Offensive Coordinator - Washington Commanders (Norv's son, and well acquainted with Wilks; available if Washington makes a change) Cameron Turner: Quarterback Coach - Arizona Cardinals (another member of the Turner family; worked with Wilks in Arizona) Ken Zampese: Quarterback Coach - Washington Commanders (not a direct Wilks acquaintance but has worked with Wilks buddy Ron Rivera) RUNNINGBACK COACH Kirby Wilson: Head Coach - Pittsburgh Maulers, USFL (was Wilks RB Coach in Arizona; an experienced runningback coach) Jeff Nixon: Runningbacks Coach - Carolina Panthers (he has more NFL experience than a lot of Rhule's other assistants) WIDE RECEIVERS COACH Ricky Proehl: Wide Receivers Coach - Saint Louis Battlehawks, XFL (Panther fans would sure love this) Adam Henry: Co-Offensive Coordinator - University of Indiana (long time NFL assistant; was with Wilks in Cleveland) TIGHT ENDS COACH Rob Chudzinski: Special Assistant to the Head Coach - Boston College (tight ends were always his specialty) Freddie Kitchens: Senior Offensive Analyst - University of South Carolina (also a long time TE Coach; he and Chudzinski could be interchangeable) OFFENSIVE LINE COACH James Campen: Offensive Line Coach - Carolina Panthers (he and Wilks also worked together in Cleveland) ASSISTANT OFFENSIVE LINE COACH Robert Kugler: Assistant Offensive Line - Carolina Panthers (Campen's protegé) DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR Al Holcomb: Defensive Coordinator - Carolina Panthers (he and Wilks go way back; was Wilks DC in Arizona too) DEFENSIVE LINE COACH Paul Pasqualoni: Defensive Line Coach - Carolina Panthers (he and Wilks apparently work well together but a change here wouldn't surprise me) Sam Mills III: Former Defensive Line Coach - Washington Commanders (Wilks could give him another shot) PASS RUSH SPECIALIST Don Johnson: Pass Rush Specialist - Carolina Panthers (was part of Wilks' staff in Arizona) LINEBACKERS COACH Ron Rivera: Head Coach - Washington Commanders (they also go way back; not hard to imagine Wilks giving Rivera a spot to land if he's fired) John Pagano: Outside Linebackers Coach - Denver Broncos (was with Wilks and Rivera in San Diego; might need a more...stable environment) SECONDARY COACH DeWayne Walker: Cornerbacks Coach - University of Arizona (Browns DB coach when Wilks was there) Cris Dishman: Defensive Coordinator - Las Vegas Vipers, XFL (worked with Wilks in San Diego; he's been out of the league for a while but it's a possibility) SPECIAL TEAMS COACH Chris Tabor: Special Teams Coordinator - Carolina Panthers (no real reason for a change here) ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ That's...not a bad looking staff, to be honest
  15. Likely a new everything... There are a few guys I could conceivably see staying from the current staff (Campen, Tabor, Wilks, Holcomb) but for the most part I think you're looking at turnover.
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