Mr. Scot

My favorite part would be Simms going "ZOOM ZOOM ZOOM"

You don't even comprehend what's being argued. Yikes

There's a name...ya know...kind of...in the post... Were you able to read it?

Eeehhh, could be worse. I could be the kinda guy who just stops by occasionally antagonizing people with dumbass arguments just to be an a--hole. Now that would be pathetic.

You think Brady is the only OC whose prior job was as a college coach? Eeehhh, no. It's actually not unusual for college coaches who get pro head coaching jobs to bring their staff with them. Mind you, college coaches don't get pro jobs as often as they used to (our own Matt Rhule is pretty good evidence as to why). As far as right now, the closest you'd find to that would be Steelers OC Matt Canada who spent just one year as their QB coach before ascending to OC. All his experience prior to that was at the college level. Buy while we're at it, you might want to check your premise here. Are you absolutely certain that college coaching is the only thing Joe Brady had done before getting the Panthers job? (might wanna check his bio)

Boy, the irony here I'm definitely not a "Brady lover" and to my knowledge, neither is CRA. Pretty sure both is us agreed with his firing. The point that soared so dpectacularly over your head though was simply that perhaps if he'd gone to a team that had better offensive coaching in place, his career might have gotten into a better groove. Young coaches ascend from both the college and pro ranks to new jobs that they haven't done before on an annual basis. Their superiors tend to help coach them up to the responsibilities of those positions. Unless of course they themselves aren't capable... ...kinda like Matt Rhule.

I genuinely thought he was gonna be good. He did look promising early on but man did it get rough later.

There was a three or four year gap in employment before he got one of those jobs.

Schuyler Callihan chimed in with a rookie Camp observation as well... They really didn't throw the ball downfield much with Corral over the weekend. It was a lot of underneath stuff and some play-action that had him rolling to both sides. When he did stand firm in the pocket, he looked comfortable. The five and seven step drops are something that will take some time for him to get used to, but this offense will primarily run out of the gun anyway. On tape, Corral had one of the quickest releases I've seen. In person, it looked even quicker. It's a natural, effortless motion that is something I haven't seen before. He was very accurate with the ball and on the few shots they did take downfield, he put it right on the money. Link Not sure about the shotgun thing. I don't remember enough about McAdoo's offense to know if that's true. Callihan did also have this to say about first round pick Ikem Ekwonu's camp... Ekwonu already looks the part. It's easy to see why everyone in the Panthers' building calls him a tone-setter. There were a couple of times that he nearly ran the guy (another lineman) holding the pad into the ground. He's just a massive human being who has tremendous strength. He'll be starting at left tackle from day one.

Corral was briefly mentioned in Albert Breer's latest MMQB column as well... You can tell talking to people there that Panthers rookie QB Matt Corral flashed real physical ability at the team’s rookie minicamp. Do I think it means he’ll wind up beating out Sam Darnold? I think, based on the relatively simple, R.P.O.-heavy offense he’s coming from, it’s way too early to even think about that yet.

It's possible he got here, practiced and decided he couldn't hack it. Wouldn't exactly say a lot for his perseverance if that's the case, but hey...

Only if the logic went over your head... See, what Tampa and Kansas City had that we don't was established offensive coaches who could have helped Brady learn how to be an NFL OC. Matt Rhule certainly wasn't (and isn't) qualified to teach anybody how to be an NFL anything.

I'm not willing to put extra effort into arguing over something that's so blatantly stupid. Kinda doubt Rayzor is either. You can declare yourself the winner if you want to, but given that you'll be basing your "win" on something that anybody with half a brain should be able to see is ridiculously idiotic, I'm not gonna be especially concerned about that

I seriously doubt it

Can you prove it numerologically?

Olsen too. The only "star" guy Rhule could legit say he lost despite wanting to keep was Luke. You could maybe argue Bradberry but the basically chose Shaq Thompson over him.

I don't honestly know that much about him other than that a few people in the undrafted players thread were happy we got him. Leaving that soon makes me think it could be something personal.

I've given this idiotic suggestion all the effort it deserves. If you actually want to stand by this dumbass idea, I'm more than happy to let you

You're referring to The Horseshit Method?

A little more info on one of our undrafted guys... Hartlaub basically came to one practice and left. Wonder what the deal was there

Don't even need to go to the effort because the concept itself is ludicrous. Rhule had an established team that wasn't the worst team in the league the previous year. Neither Fox nor Rivera could say that. And of course there was Capers who had to start from nothing. Speaking of which, besides the coaches in the last 30 years that started expansion teams from the ground up, there are the guys before them that started real expansion teams. They didn't have the kind of advantages that their more modern counterparts were given, and didn't even have things like free agency to rely on either. Using those guys alone, the suggestion that Rhule had the toughest job in history qualifies as absolute buffoonery. As to the "starters" and "leaders" that you listed, the vast majority of them were either guys Rhule himself let go or were just plain crap players or both. What's even funnier is that several of the guys Rhule brought in as their replacements were equally crap. Bottom line: If you're actually going to try and defend this silliness, I'm going to assume you're sh-tposting because this is some of the stupidest crap I've seen (and that takes some effort with guys like Sizzlebuzz on the board).

You do remember this was an expansion team once right? Zero players at all? Had to be built from the ground up? Any of that ring a bell? I'd add that calling all but one or two of those guys "stars" is a huge stretch. And even for the ones where it might be legit, they were on the downside of their careers. As to guys like Dontari Poe, Greg Van Roten and others? Yeah, losing those guys sure hurt Hell, Fox started and Rivera both started off with a 1 win teams. And let's stop with the Covid stuff. Every other team had to deal with that too, including the new coaches. I hope you're just sh-tposting, because the suggestion that Rhule had the toughest start in history is one of the dumbest things I've ever seen on here.

The vast majority of those guys either weren't wanted back or weren't very good. And calling this "the toughest start to an NFL head coach career" is ridiculous. Heck, there are people who started the same year as Rhule who had it just as tough or tougher and are doing way better now. Rhule can't even rightly be credited with having the toughest start of any Panthers coach.

I'm not convinced Burns is going to have a great season this year. Teams know they can run on him now, and without a guy like Reddick taking attention away from him, he might not be as effective as a pass rusher either.