Mr. Scot

Lemme help you out here... Here's the full behind the scenes story of the Panthers draft process. Conviction: the inside story of how the Panthers chose Bryce Young Now granted, it's written by Darin Gantt, so obviously we can't trust anything that's reported, but hey

In other words, you actually are full of sh-t And hell, it's by your own admission that you like to defend stupid points just to argue. That said though, this year I think you've exceeded your quota.

FYI: You're agreeing with someone who's been trying to argue that Rhule didn't actually have full control when he was here. You signing on with that one too?

So you should have no trouble going back and finding articles by legit insiders reporting that Frank Reich didn't really want Bryce Young, right? I mean, I'm sure the video from the pre-draft process is going to back you up because after all you're not just full of sh-t, right? Oh wait, I forgot, the Panthers doctor that video (Matt Rhule didn't really have full control either)

Maybe he's finally got an OC not named Turner that he trusts more. Could wind up biting him on the ass though.

Maybe those scripts are already written

I don't expect us to win a lot this season. That's not gonna prevent me from being excited as long as I see progress though.

Meanwhile in DC... Mind you, this is from a not-so-reliable Twitter account, but it brings to mind a potential scenario.DC If the Commanders new owner were to fire Ron Rivera midseason (or even after) would Eric Bieniemy be promoted in his place? Might Ron have unwittingly hired his own replacement?

Not knocking him. He was my preferred choice. I wouldn't mind seeing him succeed.

Re: tonight

You mean everything wasn't supposed to be perfected in preseason?

Heh

Not even close, dude And as mentioned, his "involvement" has been ezplained. And no one, not even people that he's fired, have said anything to contradict it. But yeah, "proof"

Or at least better than Justin Fields (granted that's not a real high bar to clear)

That's because the answer was dumb Also find it pretty funny that you're trying to argue Scott Fitterer is a bad GM while also suggesting that it's David Tepper making the picks. If Tepper makes the picks, what does it matter who's the GM?

Yeah, that's weak It's also false given that even per Rivera's own account, Tepper just made a comment like "maybe you could try going 3-4". He didn't dictate that they switch. And as we all remember by watching, Riviera didn't really switch anyway. If you want to go from that to saying "he told us who to draft", yeah sure

This strikes me as one of those times where either a team or the quarterback himself is trying to make a point that he can win as a passer. One, that's just about always a sh-tty strategy. But more to the point, if you have to go to an effort to try and prove something like that, it probably isn't true.

Funny you should bring up the Commanders. Remember after his firing, Jay Gruden told the story about how Daniel Snyder would essentially tell them with the draft picks were? Tepper has fired two coaches and one GM. The team has also parted ways with a high level executive in Pat Stewart. Has any one of them come out and made similar accusations about Tepper? Hell, even inveterate excuse maker Matt Rhule hasn't suggested anything like that.

Watching a pro day doesn't equal telling your people who to draft. Hell, if I were an owner, I'd go to The Combine , pro days or anything I could. But I'd also be smart enough to know I'm not a professional scout. (Tepper has said that too)

Yep. Did my fair share of damage to myself over the years. I know a while back we had a thread where we talked about old sports injuries. Seems like a load of us were walking wounded

Worth a shot 🫥

He strikes me as one of those heroes that you're better off not meeting.

My best friend growing up was also a football teammate up through middle school. As I recall, he'd had arthroscopic surgery on both knees by the time he was in the eighth grade. He didn't play high school ball because he just couldn't anymore.

Hey now, that can be a real b-tch