Mr. Scot

I thought it was The Process... Or was it The Brand... Okay it's probably The Suck

Wouldn't argue that. I'd almost say he's more suited to be a fullback but he doesn't have the size for that and I don't know that he's that great a blocker.

Remember McAdoo spent three or four years there not working for anybody. And yeah, I've also wondered if we're limiting the playbook. Others have mentioned that Giants fans saw it is normal so who can say?

He apparently left practice for a bit. We've been wondering if something might be going on with him because he hasn't looked like his usual self.

The hell?

It was supposed to be a rock star. I think someone else called it a cover band.

Don't think I agree there. He's capable of running pretty hard when he gets the ball. But the hands? Oy

Couple notes... When Moore was a rookie, it seemed like he was great when he got the ball but it was tough getting him the ball. We called what I felt like were a lot of runs and reverses in order to hand it off to him rather than trying to pass it. That could be related to his route running. As far as the holding, the league for the last couple of years has basically told refs to go easy on it unless it's absolutely blatant. Some teams are good at taking advantage of that. I don't know that we are. I'm still trying to figure out what happened with Chinn. Near as I can tell it's like they looked at him and said "hey he's great at this so maybe he'll be great at that too" and started using him differently. But then he wasn't good at that and they don't seem to want to go back to using him at this. I don't think the players being out of position is due to depth concerns. I put that on coaches not knowing what they're doing. Brown can definitely be good. I'm just not sure he can be consistently good. And as far as going back to more WCO style on the offense, I'm for it. It works pretty well when done right and we've got some ideal personnel for that kind of attack. Good analysis.

Because he had to hire somebody and McAdoo was one of the few guys that was interested. I don't really think Rhule's thought process goes deeply enough to ask the questions you're asking here.

Which is a great thing to say after you spent the offseason building your offense around the idea you were gonna be run heavy...

To be honest, I'm not even sure if it matters whether he still has a plan or not. The reality is Rhule just doesn't have the intelligence to be an NFL coach. Depending on what level your school is at in college, you're generally playing checkers or low-level chess. But the NFL game is populated with chess masters, some of them elite chess masters. There are a dozen subtle things going on with every play and every game plan. You can't just go at that kind of complexity with checkers level skills and expect to win.

They had an open spot with Roy going on IR

Chris Ballard and Ed Dodds have been considered two of the best personnel guys in the league for a while now, but their most recent big moves were trading draft capital for Carson Wentz and Matt Ryan. Goes to show how quickly things can go south, I guess.

Are they talking about the OC version or the head coach version? The OC version got a lot of praise. The head coach? Not so much.

I don't think McAdoo's offense has been simplistic at his past jobs. That said, I haven't been impressed with what I've seen so far of his Panthers offense.

Don't know his background. He might be from the area.

Wilks (allegedly) called out Sean Chandler and Sam Franklin, a couple of Rhule's Temple guys, not everybody.

I think he probably did have a plan. Problem is a lot of what he's done to set up that plan so far hasn't worked. Can't get to the next step of the plan if the previous step went wrong. It's kind of like that saying about boxing, "everybody has a plan till you get punched in the mouth". Rhule has been getting punched in the mouth for two seasons already, and has gotten started on a third.

I read that entire thread from C3 and don't remember any mention of Wilks saying anything like that.

Kaye was previously with Pro Football Network working with guys like Aaron Wilson but will now be joining Ellis Williams on the Observer's Panthers beat. From what I've seen of him, he's pretty good.

In a crazy sequence playing the Saints, who were starting a young backup named Jake Delhomme

It's just a hunch...

The names Tepper threw into the hat last time were mostly analytics types who didn't have a lot of experience in personnel evaluation. His thing since he started has been to do things differently than others so that he can show how smart he is. Except...he isn't.

Henning was actually good. If you want the full sh-t show, you're gonna need Jeff Davidson running the offense. (Richard Rodgers running the special teams works too)