Mr. Scot

More regarding Howell...

For his latest FMIA column, Peter King talk to a dozen GMs about this year's draft. Here's what three of them had to say about the Panthers pick (and about GM Scott Fitterer). ON CAROLINA WITH THE SIXTH OVERALL PICK GM4: “[GM] Scott Fitterer is well-respected, and I feel bad for him. I’d hate to need a quarterback this year, with an owner all over you to find one, and have to draft one with this group. No one feels great about any of these guys. [Pitt’s Kenny] Pickett is probably the best one, and he’s a maybe.” GM5: “There’s not a generational talent in this draft, and there’s certainly not one at quarterback. You get in trouble reaching for a quarterback. Somebody’s gonna reach for one because of need, maybe more than one, and then you put more pressure on the guy you pick because your fans expect a first-round quarterback to play.” GM6: “I could actually see a scenario where if Carolina is focused on one guy at quarterback, they might have to move up a spot or two to make sure they get their guy. I say that because you look at the teams in the middle of the round. New Orleans might want to move up, and with two ones now [at 16 and 19], they’ve got the ammo to move up. Pittsburgh [at 20] has had all their people at all these quarterback workouts—Mike Tomlin, [GM] Kevin Colbert, scouts. I’ll be really surprised if they don’t take one, and if they’re fixed on one guy, they won’t be shy about moving up to get one. This is Colbert’s last year [as GM], and I’m sure he wants to leave the team with options at quarterback.” Note about quarterbacks picked in the top six recently, and Carolina picking sixth overall: In the last 10 drafts, 18 quarterbacks have been picked in the top six. It’s too early to know about the three from 2021—Trevor Lawrence, Zach Wilson, Trey Lance. Of the other 15 passers picked in the top six since 2012, two and maybe three appear to be long-term answers for their teams: Joe Burrow, Justin Herbert, and maybe Kyler Murray. Tua Tagovailoa might be one. But the others—Andrew Luck, Robert Griffin III, Blake Bortles, Jameis Winston, Marcus Mariota, Jared Goff, Carson Wentz, Mitchell Trubisky, Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold, Daniel Jones—are either long gone from the teams that drafted them or a long shot to be a 10-year starter there. That’s a daunting thing, to pick a quarterback who’s not a sure thing with all the pressure to make it that has eaten alive some of the previous high picks.

Oh hell, no

I don't have one.

FYI: Found the comments in question... The stuff about Murray not watching or "grinding" film come from a New York Times profile. He basically feels he doesn't need to "kill himself" watching film because he can just go out on the field and "see stuff". Excerpts: From the start, he has unapologetically refused to conform, either to football doctrine or to the perceptions of how a quarterback should act, look and lead. ... Murray does not watch much game film. He tends to hold the ball outstretched when he runs, anathema to every coach who has instructed him not to (to which Murray has said, “When they get close, I’ll tuck it”). ... “I think I was blessed with the cognitive skills to just go out there and just see it before it happens,” Murray said. “I’m not one of those guys that’s going to sit there and kill myself watching film. I don’t sit there for 24 hours and break down this team and that team and watch every game because, in my head, I see so much.” Link: Inside the Mind of Kyler Murray So essentially, Murray is the smart kid in class who feels like he doesn't need to work all that hard because he's so smart. Probably worth pointing out that didn't go so well in the playoffs.

Steve Keim probably should have been fired years ago but the Bidwills like him, so...

I'm not big on listening to players opinions on personnel decisions either. As for Robby, all I can say for certain is my own opinion of him was way more positive last year. When he got the contract he did, I raised an eyebrow but didn't scream about it. Then he started dropping passed and welp...

Someone had it in one of the Murray threads a while back. I forget where it came from but I remember thinking it was a legit source (Cardinals beat writer from somewhere probably). And honestly, the fact that he's as physically talented as he is and is arguably the ideal fit for their system (handpicked by the coach) yet the team still isn't sure they wanna commit to him counts as one of those things that make you go "hmmm"

I care. I just don't have an answer. Someone asked me in one of these recent threads who I wanted at quarterback, and I realized there isn't anybody available I'd say "yes" to.

Even with the "I don't need to study film, I just wing it" comments?

Or anyone else's. That said, this is a team that had to make changes at the quarterback position in part because the owner shot his mouth off.

Wasn't this already known?

I actually thought your response to the post in question pretty well covered it, particularly when it came to the coach and quarterback issues, up until the "why do people dislike Robby" part. Speaking again only for myself, I don't generally give a sh-t what players post on social media, but the point that Robby isn't really a good enough player to be listened to when it comes to personnel decisions is a valid one. Generally speaking, football decisions should be made for football reasons outside of heinous conduct. Saying things, even dumb things, on social media may be goofy, but it's generally not heinous.

"People like me", eh? I can't speak for the "people like me" but I myself didn't really have any issues with Robby until he started dropping everything thrown to him after getting a big contract.

Dropping everything in sight doesn't offer a clue? (and yes, the vast majority of his drops were very catchable)

I don't want Mayfield anymore than I want Kaepernick.

Pretty much...

Calling "hyperbole" is amusing, given that every year Kaepernick is away, the perception of how good he was when he played gets further exaggerated. At this rate, he'll be a hall of famer and borderline greatest of all time within three or four years from now. As far as a more realistic take... Good? Somewhat. Very good? Maybe at times. Great? Not really. He was always a better athlete than quarterback, and plenty of people knew it. General belief was that he never got past being a one read quarterback (and there was plenty of film evidence) but Harbaugh did a good job compensating for it. That's reality.

Of the currently available quarterbacks... Nobody

We are not a quarterback away from the playoffs. And if we were, that quarterback wouldn't be Mayfield.

Kaepernick was never that good. Unless we're bringing Jim Harbaugh back to build a system around him, it wouldn't be a good move even if he hadn't been out of football for years. But he has, and we aren't, so let's not.

Mary Kay Cabot is actually one of the best Browns news sources you can find. Her info is credited to "a league source".

That's the funniest part to me. The Kaepernick debate aside, that Anderson actually thinks he's a good enough player for his opinions to mean something is just

Polian says a lot of the same things I think about what makes a great quarterback. Just being a great athlete who can run fast and throw far isn't enough. Too many people fall in love with the highlight reels and don't look at the whole picture.