kungfoodude

Yeah, I think Stafford has a lot of shelf life left if he decides to have a long career.

I hope to be able to respond, "Sorry, the correct answer was Kyle Trask" in a few months.

It's not the size of the site, it's how you use it.

You can't unsign that contract we have with CMC. What is done is done. You adjust and move on. You don’t try to trade a dude that, again I will point out, is literally at the lowest trade value of his young NFL career. The odds of obtaining the assets in return to make that worthwhile are EXTREMELY low.

Which direction are the skid marks?

Sometimes the difference between what you want and what you will take is quite different. If I were Houston, I definitely wouldn't put out in the press that I would take less than that.

Lol. I can understand that. Sometimes it's hard to see behind the curtain. Even with our guys who we love and aren't always good people. My favorite Panther of all time is still Steve Smith. I have never met the man but I have never heard a single positive thing about interacting with him. You know what though....I still love him to death. I will always love Steve Smith. He'd have to punch me like he did Ken Lucas for that to change.

Nah. He is 100% not fake. He is genuinely just a really nice guy. He is pretty corny. I will give you that.

There are some pretty decent statistical breakdowns of that over the years. It just depends on your specific criteria.

The talent level has dropped off. Lol....why do you dislike Russell? I have actually met him before. He is genuinely a very nice guy.

Yeah, that team reminds me quite a bit of Wilson's old NC State teams where he was "The Guy" making a suspect roster appear better than they were. He is the classic example of why you have to get that franchise QB. Even when the chips are down they make you competitive. Think about how often that was true when we had Cam.

Yeah, the only situation those guys are on the board are: 1. Elite franchise QB in prime(Watson scenario, which is probably an NFL first) 2. They aren't going to sign with us again anyway.

Pretty much the same thing I have been saying. Basically the bulk of the guys we really, really don't want to get rid of are the most valuable assets we have. People get so enamored with the flash of the NFL they completely miss out on the financial and positional value aspects of the league.

Buy high, sell low. That would be something special.

Yeah....I don't know what these people are thinking. CMC isn't a particularly tradeable asset right now and for DAMN sure not at the value he adds on the field. We can gripe and argue about how bad his contract is all day long but that ink is long since dried. Unless there is some franchise QB on the board for this hypothetical trade, people need to chill on this BS.

So, the idea of arbitrarily dealing a guy that is probably at the lowest trade value of his career(coming off an injury plagued season and with the league's largest RB contract) is kind of dumb. Unless you are getting someone like Deshaun Watson, what purpose would this actually serve?

Nah. Aslin is from VA and Other Half is from Brooklyn.

I don't think it makes sense to trade for a QB unless it is an elite guy like Watson or an established and proven veteran like Stafford. Trading for a bad contract on a "damaged goods" guys like Wentz or Darnold just seems like throwing good money after bad money. I am all for signing one of those types in a free agency scenario where you can at least negotiate a decent deal but why gamble with draft picks and lose by getting saddled with a contract potentially worse than Teddy's?

It's actually funny how heavily weighted the league's new crop of elite or potentially elite QB's are towards the past 5 years of the draft.

That isn't my biggest point. And by the time that everyone playing now retires, he will have long since been up for HOF consideration. It's only a five year window before that happens. If you want points, he's fifth all time in passing yardage, fifth all time in passing TD's, twelfth all time in passing rating, 14th all time in completion percentage, 12th all time in game winning drives, 10th all time in 4th quarter comebacks, 8 Pro Bowls but....yeah....I guess he really never did anything, right? To even say he hasn't had a career worthy of HOF consideration is utterly ridiculous. His accomplishments aren't diminished because the league has had multiple HOF caliber QB's playing over the past 20 years any more than the other candidates would be. If you want the knocks against him, they would be the same as Dan Fouts, Dan Marino, Warren Moon, Jim Kelly or any number of other HOF QB's that either had little playoff success or never won a Super Bowl.

That isn't choking someone out. This is choking someone out:

Yeah, the only possible scenario I see Watson here is in the forced trade, single team force scenario. In that world, perhaps we can get Houston to blink and give us a little bit more of a reasonable trade deal but I think we are talking about less than 1% likelihood of that kind of thing transpiring. For me, the Watson scenario has just been great fodder for discussion, so I am happy to have it for that reason alone. I am sure it will be an anticlimactic resolution in comparison to the debate surrounding where he could go.