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But the age thing isn't that big of a deal. You still have to keep him around, right? How did that work for Stafford or Wilson when their teams couldn't attain or sustain success? So does trading 3 1sts, more picks and players make Watson more valuable if he is gone at this end of this contract? Because, the truth is, it's gonna be pretty hard to get a good roster together without the ability to add high quality and cheap talent. And I understand Wilson and Stafford likely weren't good options because they want to win and that isn't our franchise. I mean purely in theory, why is he REALLY worth more?

Yeah but that isn't honestly a good reason. You have the best QB's in the NFL playing at a high level into their late 30's and early 40's. So why does that make him more valuable? And you are trading for finished products in Stafford and Wilson, versus an unfinished product in Watson.

To me the real question is why is he worth more than Stafford or Wilson? Both those QB's now have a ring and have played at an elite level for years. So what makes Watson worth more in trade value? I honestly can't wrap my head around that.

It is funny that we launched into a rebuild yet have consistently gotten worse.

People aren't going to follow Tom Brady to a dumpster fire, nor is he going to go to a dumpster fire. Furthermore, the only people that followed him to Tampa were Gronk and Antonio Brown. That's a 50% success rate. That team was built before he got there.

Again, 1 inch and 15 lbs aren't gonna do that. Technique will.

They are fine as players, but the value is questionable. They don't immediately resonate as players that are fuging trash like last offseasons early signings. I guess that will have to pass for improvement for the moment.

Size isn't going to make him better. Skill, technique and drive will. That's your inner Matt Rhule talking with the 1 inch and 15 lbs stuff.

It's funny the polarizing views on Verge. My guess is that she knows far less than some of you think and far more than some of you think.

If you are on an internet forum actually threatening physical violence, you basically already lost whatever argument you were having.

I don't think a QB who isn't on our team is keeping people away. It's our terrible owner and coaching staff. That has created a situation where you aren't going to get many guys that want to win to willingly buy into. This is why article after article talk about how we are viewed so poorly by other franchise employees. Make no mistake, this zoo atmosphere was a Tepper creation.

I fully expect the defense to be substantially worse this coming season. It isn't that we lost many truly elite players(save Gilmore) but we don't have replacements for them and will be unable to replace most with equal or better options from the roster(laughable), from free agency(without nuking the cap) or from the draft(only 1 draft pick available).

That is a better OL overall but that left side will get shelled all season long. Can't fix it all in one offseason, though.

Keep in mind we could have had cheap talent in the draft in 2021 that were as good or better than this. Could have had it in 2022 as well. This is the price you pay for fuging up draft picks.

Don't love that price. I hope he can be above average. If not, this signing will hurt.

Please be fuging cheap. Solid upgrade if we don't break the bank.

So we are loading up with safeties that are mediocre in coverage but very good in run support? Could also fix the leaky front 7 so that isn't necessary. Just saying. Not a bad signing, just kind of a whatever signing. Bigger issues to fix that will have much bigger W/L impacts. It should mean Hamilton is off the board if we keep our draft pick in 2022.

There is a difference between guys chasing money and guys chasing success.

I should have said "good" veterans.

Plus good veterans aren't gonna want to come here. Also, if you haven't noticed a trend, Rhule doesn't like veterans.

Good for him earning the big bucks. Very glad we aren't paying it.

Payton will pull a Brady if they get Watson.

I know people want to believe this, but he isn't actually worth a 1st.

Maybe all, maybe none, maybe somewhere in between. We will never actually know.