kungfoodude

It amazes me that people still hate this guy here. The Huddle is a "special" place.

Well he did make a Pro Bowl as a RT and LT. I suspect a first is a must.

There are a whooooooooooooole lot of bust QB's who meet that criteria, as well. Not saying those aren't valid....but there is a lot more to it than that.

Lol. That also speaks to our specific level of desperation at that position. It was nice for a few games this year to see actual competent LT play for the first time since Jordan retired. I am sure Brown Jr. will command more than a third, unfortunately. I know we all keep seeing the shiny toys available in the trade market, but we have to pick our poison on these "hypothetical" trades. We really need to get some of these drafted guys into the organization to start to build with. That's a question for you, do you stay in the game for a veteran QB trade or trade up in the draft, or do you try and get Orlando Brown, Jr.? I don't think we can afford both in terms of reasonable draft capital.

I guess that boils down to.....do we believe he is a LT and what is the price?

I was just going to say that after #7, he probably could care less about that actual trophy.

I know what "external" football operations were/are for the New England Patriots.

No, he really wasn't. Agree to disagree. Agree to disagree. We only remember him fondly because of how poor the tackles around him were. He was an average to slightly above average LT. Now, you could certainly argue that those are becoming rarer. That I would certainly agree with.

Nah, I'm good on that. I would trade those picks for Orlando Brown Jr. I would not trade those picks for Michael Oher. He was serviceable. He looked better than he was because of the guys that preceded him. Russell Okung was a far better LT here than Oher ever was, IMO.

And I am also okay trading up above #8 provided it makes sense. Trading anything more than maybe a future 1st and a mid-rounder is going to give me a lot of heartburn. Even at that price, it's gonna sting. Let's hope the QB market goes bananas and a lot of these QB thirsty teams get their situations established before the draft.

I am a big believer in Lance because he has the highest ceiling of any of the other QB's in the draft and has some potentially elite intangibles. However.....he is still not a sure bet and pushing a bunch of chips into the pot with the potential to bust.....not gonna do a lot for our future as a franchise. You better be REALLY sure in your evaluation. In theory I would love to have Watson. To me, it's about the price. I do realize that he has 10+ years left in the league but if we trade the farm(especially if we give up guys like Burns or Chinn or Moore) then you basically reset your rebuild close to square one but with an elite QB. Does that make us better? Yeah. Does that make us good? Probably not. So, I would love nothing more than to have Watson but if it costs us the farm in terms of existing talent(of which we have so little) or in terms of future draft capital(of which we need so badly).....is the net win big enough to matter? If at the end of Watson's current contract, he doesn't want to stick around here, would it even be worth it?

I would not trade a third for what Oher was for us. I might trade a 5th or a 6th.

I mean, everyone knows what the Pro Days are about. Yeah, this year is going to separate the men from the boys in your scouting film room.

Oh they did cancel the Combine completely. Oof. Yeah....that is rough. Very glad we got the Senior Bowl.

Still a lot of time and potential QB moves out there that could impact what we do. Safe to say that looking back at these January/February/early March mock drafts will illicit a lot of laughs in April/May.

Are they doing satellite combines still? If so, they should get at least some information. I guess the biggest loss is the pro days, the opt outs and the smaller school guys who didn't play.

Well, Lance in this scenario would cost a first and second. Watson will probably cost more than that. Maybe substantially and that is under the heavy assumption that he would actually want to come here.

Yeah. Little is just a flat bust. There is no way to get around that fact. He was less effective than Rashaan Gaulden.

He will be in.

Don't bother engaging with 4Corners. He is a bottom 5 poster on this forum.

Yeah but at least they came away with actual hardware. We didn't.

That is just you not liking him, so your arguments have no basis in anything rational. Him being upset about the poo OL is a thing I am sure quite a few starting QB's in the NFL are currently upset about. You think Mahomes was pumped to see Remmers getting ass blasted Sunday?

Nah, I wouldn't take Rattler or Howell ahead of either of them. Maybe Wilson but that is a stretch too. Those guys may be a little more ready to step in and play right away than Lance but neither of them have anywhere near the ceiling that Lance does and Fields to an extent.

Right now I wouldn't rate any of those 2022 QB's ahead of the top 4 QB's in this class. Maybe Rattler but I think that is a stretch too.