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He is so blah at best. He is the type of player you trade before his first big contract and never look back. Now he is their reliable CB. Just lol. Friterer is such a loser.

Yeah he is an absolute moron an might be worse than even I thought.

They were a perineal playoff team with another option already on the team and then drafted a better QB with the last pick in the draft. All this comp says is we should just play Dalton and move on like they did while still being a poorly coached train wreck of a team? We are also set to give up a #1 in this draft, the 9th pick, a WR worth more than a 1st, 2 seconds and you believe 3 first and a 3rd for the #3 pick is more than that? (Hint look at where those picks were for the 49ers they traded away Link) We traded more and both look like terrible trades but the 49ers just made it a blip while the Panthers are the leagues laughing stock. On top of all of that we drafted a guy who matches poorly to the team they built or had.

That trade will make it impossible to ever see him reach the value it took to get him here even if he gets past Teddy level production in his play. This team is set up to draft another QB without needing to trade up in 2025 already. It's a chicken or egg scenario, is he good or is he being ruined? It doesn't matter because that trade started the snowball that already got out of hand. Moore looks good, Burns isn't worth a 1st maybe now yet we need a new Moore. They would have to hit on so many things in the draft ,free agency and trades that it's such a long shot even before you take into account that the people in charge absolutely couldn't pull it off because they have been failing miserably in those areas. Some fans are already talking 4 to 5 years for it to all come together... Young never had a chance here and he probably won't get a decent one until this team dumps him and he goes on a prove it deal with someone else. I have never like his play or been impressed with his work, here or before, but that doesn't change any of this. He is doomed here unless he get a miracle like a McDaniels and we look 2 years away from any meaningful change because the GM who made that trade is still employed and helping the Owner and all we have seen if the OC is calling plays for his first time ever (or close enough) at 0-6. On a side note, the Texas game will a great measuring stick for Bryce. Some of the stuff floating around here will either stick or fall away after that game.

No way anyone makes a trade when he will be available shortly.

I would take a 6th round pick and then spend it on a CB that is healthy over him at this point. Unfortunately he is the type of player that will be had on a prove it deal soon after being cut. They should have tried to trade him before the year for a 3rd or 4th given that they were already tied to Jackson who has even less value with that contract. Now it's probably a conditional pick later for Horn or being tied to 2 CBs you can not rely on. He won't see his 5th year option either way.

Do all of that and give that ammo to a new GM and HC combo to use to build the team in the right way, through good drafting. The only real deal killer is that Tepper would still fug it up by hiring more losers.

Adams was picked in the 2nd round at the 53rd pick... There are always WRs around in the draft, Fritterer just likes to draft ones that don't play well. Not too many people still wanting to see him employed here much longer. Get a new GM and let him build a real roster the right way and not more waste like this.

Take a 1st and draft poorly again or take a trade for WR who is too old and already unhappy so I'm sure he will just love being on the worst team in the NFL. Cool choices...

Give how this team is run that might be Tepper's next kind of big swing...

This team is only good at wasting. Players, picks, cap, time, effort in selling their BS propaganda and anything else you can think of. He is going to walk with zero back to the team. So much failure in so many ways and yet they just keep doing more.

With how he is playing it seems about fair and I don't know if his value improves or sinks further as the season drags on. I am more surprised he hasn't asked for a trade. He might be eying free agency in the offseason which would be really bad on the tag approach. Getting him gone now might be a cleaner approach vs the tag trade/keep scenario (lol but who knows with these people). I doubt they do a great job with him but I am interested in seeing what everyone chooses. This negotiation and situation since the Ram's offer has been a complete failure to date.

He wouldn't have been drafted as a LT for this scheme. This team took a top 10 LT built for another scheme and then drafted a QB at #1 who can't play in his LTs scheme. It's not rocket science and if you're just blaming Ickey then you are avoiding the other issues. This is what crap team building looks like. Wasted talent and killing value is the Panthers way now. Behold the splendor

Whatever. Just let me know where not to look and I'll stay away. I don't know what the best option is. Seperate the sides or let them bicker forever. All I know is that this is the new normal for at least a while with this team. Those chasing hope and those who have none until they are given very good reasons. I am here to crap on Tepper and his product until I dump my PSLs and then I can figure out what I want to do from there in regards to the Panthers. So just let me know where to avoid because I'm done giving AF about Panther fantasies or long drawn out hope of mediocrity at this point.

It's not about protecting or even liking ownership. I wish all teams were owned like GB or similar but they are not. This is lack of knowledge of facts and lack of aweness that are large red flags. Even if they could do this, no one would do it for a rookie anyways.

I hope they are filming when he asks an owner to their face for that.

I don't doubt it. He has fans and they are on a slow death track wirh some serious cash in the flow still.

If you are going to make a wish then make one worth having. How about I wish Tepper would get caught doing anything and would be forced to sell to a competent owner who isn't like a past mistake.

It's just another ESPN show which have been hard for me to stomach for years. Lots of same stuff but he doesn’t wear a suit or sit at a desk. Some like it and some think it's more noise in a long line of the same. I honestly thought it was just a youtube channel by the quality of production. There is a clear reason that network has been dumping talent for a while with declining viewership. Still strong but not what is was years ago. It's down 24% from 10 years ago so the fact people don't perfer it might not be because of age but purely preference.

The entire thing for me. To each their own but this one is a hardbpass for me.

I keep waiting for him to slam a button about a stock. The info isn't bad but it's just not digestible to me.

McAfee is so hard to watch. What I could sit through was spot on.

I was thinking in the offseason. He built his staff and there is accoubtability to those he brought on. It's hard to see it during the season for that reason. I guess Frank and Tepper can always negotiate the money part. Tepper can pay him to go away if he wants to make it look better than a firing. I need to see Tepper pull off a win-win strategy to belive that option tho.