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They are desperate and I wouldn't bet against that. Should be a good game. I still don't care about wins if the team is competitive and things are improving.

I thought it was negotiable while that was the floor. Obviously I haven't kept up in years. Well there is always IR if they can't trade him.

It's a very opinionated take every time with this guy. He talks about what he likes and dislikes which isn't needed and skews his breakdowns. Just put it on mute and you can see the good and bad without the bias. Dalton had a good game, got lucky with a few throws and made some really great throws. This is not a playoff team but it is a team that can be competitive with Dalton at QB.

1. I was told the cap doesn't really exist anymore? Sarcasm. 2. None of that guaranteed cap hit transfers to the new team? I have no idea how I missed that on rookie contracts. I thought it was all guaranteed but transferable.

Bryce has no upside. He doesn't even make a good backup. Someone else might so....

All I know is if they have to roll Bryce back out there any time soon it's going to get so much worse because he is unplayable right now. He shouldn't even be the backup unless they were trying to move him and keep the value up. If they are keeping him then they need to promote Plumber or go sign someone as a '#3' who just plays in front of Bryce while he learns or whatever miracle they are waiting on with all that.

Kick ass way to go out with that TD catch. IR stinks but the young guys need to step up. They are going to get more reps now and that's fine because Andy doesn't need a weighted blanket like the other guy.

I have no idea but without Young playing we have a chance in a lot of those games and should at least be competitive in the rest.

I do not want to see him play here again. If they are keeping him then they need to bring in another QB so he won't play. I can't believe anyone working in that house wants to see Young again on the field this season...well anyone not tied to him. Why is moving him now a bad thing? How is his value better in the offseason when teams are desperate now. It's the Burns trade all over, it was always higher in season when some team is trying to salvage their year vs all the other options in the offseason. I get if there was any doubt but there shouldn't be at this point.

Just go have fun and don't forget to run. Those guys were so happy to be able to prove what they can do that it makes another Sunday something to look forward to again.

The PFF guys did a good job. Their grades can be skewed but it was solid take after solid take. They also breached the issue well and in context.

He is a bully trying to beat up on the weak kid on the block. combine it with lazy and that is Rex. He always seemed that way since his coaching days to me.

It's just lazy. Pure laziness. His job is to watch football and comment on it. He obviously didn't do it.

Rex Ryan proving he hasn't watched 1 Panthers game this year. The Bryce got ruined take is such a red flag. It completely ignores his inability to make any NFL plays while everyone around him does. That is Bryce Young's ruin.

10 years ago. Feels a lot longer than that though. Can't imagine what newer fans think.

It's fun that they get a good look at what they have and now a chance to clean it up. Been a long time to have anything to build upon

Good to see. It's time for others to realize it was a Bryce problem first and then everything else. Because media guys choosing to admit he was wrong is not the norm. Props to him for admitting his take was wrong. Lots of 'it's not Bryce' still out there and in fact it was just that.

Yeah Plumber was the guy they brought in that wouldn't hurt Bryce's feelings. We can and should do better because he is a PS guy and not a #2.

Sanders is such a waste of cap. If they have to lean on him at all then they are going to have no running game. Even with Hubbard studding it out there it still didn't open anything up for Sanders. He is so bad and I don't really know a setup that can get more out of him.

This should be like last Sunday/Monday shift. Announce it in the presser and find a #2. Rip the bandaid off and let the crowd catch up.

4 or 5 seems fair. We have a new new offense and the tape accumulates. Let's see how the team responds to this game and what they work on this week. That could tick up some but Andy isn't going to get fresher as the season goes on. Just being competitive and showing improvement is all I really care about the rest of this season. That's something that's been missing for way too long.

Historically bad. Eventually that needs to be recognized as the factual reality.