Basbear

They would be better and still lose. Again the talent is less than expansion level teams. Starters are the worst and the depth is the worse. Stroud would play better, but hes not a demi-god able to overcome the devoid of talent. Dbrown was the only player that teams had to account for and hes gone now. I honestly think more than half the teams could plays their 2s and still win. Cause thats what the panthers are 2s. Hunt, horn, lewis, johnson and clowny may start on other teams, but the others would be 3rd stringers PS types. If you look at those names, 90% came outside the team this year......panthers had no talent. Clowny has played on 5 one year deals for like five teams the past years. Johnson was traded for a player the panthers told the league they were going to cut. Those two sit atop the panthers talent hill, total joke.

The constant gambling ads nearly broke me and all the political BS. If not for my DVR, id for sure be less likely to care. Commercials during the are 95% booze or gambling, total turnoff for me and Im a boozehound. Its something like 17 minutes of "snap-play" and the other 193 is toxic fluff.

He did- https://sports.yahoo.com/best-worst-pff-grades-panthers-153538094.html odd, he must have screwed up the biltz pick up or something on ST. It was franks, XL, and Mike Johnson(new) I thought played "ok" enough. everyone else(i maybe missed some OLmen) was TRASH!! Mike was new and a couple bad plays, but they tried picking on him and for most of it he held up Shaq had 2 TFL, but arm tacks broken and missed gaps...he looked rusty at times- WHICH IS WHY YOU NEED TO PLAY PLAYERS IN THE PS.

This. giants simply have enough talent to win 5-7 games with poor QB play......I doubt panthers could win with good QB with the defense I seen this past sunday.. I predicted 2 wins and now thinking thats too high. Still it was just one game, bad as it was.

PFF is pffffffffftt, but didnt franks have 80 PFF grade? The little I member, he looked "ok", which was better than 95% of the team.

I didnt watch the game, but in the highlights it seemed having JJ helped.... KOC is a good coach as well. I could not help but think, if only the panthers had some real good coaches when all the QB turnover was happening......darnold could have been good enough if the coaching was on point. People can say darnold always plays good a few and then fails, idk....the jets and panthers never gave him a chance by the looks. SF had a legit QB already starting and knew the system. Darnold could pull a geno.

You do recall when they attempted to run the ball and see the biltz pick up. Bryce was bad and so was the OL. There was not one group that played well, ST, DL, LBs, TE, S OL etc etc ALL PLAYED AWFUL.

I believe they still need - TE, RB, WRs, C, maybe a LT, future RT. OG lewis was in and out the line up. Hunt is only off the list cause dead money. The team needs a team. Basically QB jesus is not going to save them, even Joe burrow was could not save this team and he turned around the bungals and their 20+ years of losing.

The line sure was a problem, BOTH of them. There was nothing to point at and go " Hey at least _____ looked good".

I agree there would be hope if bryce had a killer drive, but he was too busy this off-season watching netflixs Acolyte on repeat.

Bro we need to full stop this draft a early QB talk. Just like BY getting carr'd, the same would happen to the next rookie QB. They need to build the team at least so the next QB doesnt get shell shocked, its a waste. Draft a edge with the #1 and sign some vet to get though the rough water. *If by some chance they dont, you can not play that QB until its safe.

The one reason to buy a ticket, the one difference maker..... I thought he looked "off" for most of the game, now the classic panther pay the man curse takes another.

His pocket awareness is poor and thats being nice. Member when I said I was being 100% honest in saying PJ > BY. You can go down the list- baker, darnold, stroud, levis, etc etc. Panthers org deserves B Y.

Its only one game and all, but it truly looks like they were in fact hiding bryce form being further exposed. I thought it was silly and "hey guyz this is the NFL, nothing like that would take place"..... But that was awful seeing him struggle out there and that first throw....just. Set back 5 years.

Re-sign Chirst on the cheap and give him the job after cutting moton....

I wasnt upset with cutting him, just the timing........(like many other moves). After the stinkers to end the last year and poor PS showings, johnson ran hard and broke like 4 tackles starting in the back-field. You reward that effort with a pink slip??? They had 40 other players to cut, pick one of them. "timing" like they wavied that OLman a couple days after his wife gave brith. Just treat the players more human-like and use common sense.

Did it feel like something special was taking place?? I fuging love watching it blowing up a more talented defense. It had answers and counters and "simple", then BOOM 75 yard break away. Like I said art in motion!

Ive been more too critical of Morgans moves, but past years have also taught me to not care about rounds 5-7. Ive broke it some, Raym was not listed among the top 12 Centers. I was complaining they didnt draft s(tarting in the 5 round) Beaux Limmer whom I thought was a legit steal at that point. So I did break my rule Most times rounds 6-7 are drafting players whom you can not agree to UDFA terms.

Was Paul running his triple option during??

The mis-managed is due to talent and cap. Before the claims they were under the cap, i believe around 3 million. Are those no names additions worth 11 million in cap space?? They gave chaisson a 500,000 SB and 500,000 salary guarantee. One carried the two, thats 1 million pissed away or pissed into the -8,000,000 they were over. In which they "fixed" by giving a ok-good RT Moton nearly 40 million cap number next year. They signed a injured Wonnum, nearly all teams you need to past a physical. They were hoping he could only miss OTAs and mini, but make TC....Bad luck with the set-back, thats why you sign healthy players. They gave him what 8 million for the 2024 season aka 17 games....well best now is 13 games along with being cut next year.(7 million saving) I do agree this will take longer than just one off-season. I have to keep telling my myself that. Also at the same time, all the effort to correct seems like much of the same mis-takes that got us here. You are right about distributed of cap funds, im guitly of hating that. 163 million on OGs, jesus H christ I thought BY was some god-like PG that you could SAVE money with, not spend/trade for 10 elite players around him. I do need to allow morgan to work his vision and not mirco each move, I just feel hes making mistakes along the way. (his djack for johnson and future 2nd were excellent). Its a big mess the biggest in NFL, he needs full yearS of work.

My honestly reason for naming navy or any military unit, is reinforcing the grave difference at the lines. You dont see any 300 LBer best I recall(PT), while even big HS have a couple ones. Best i recall, the triple option was used to combat this difference and it shocked those big schools a couple times in history. Paul Johnson running that was fine art in motion.

I think sewell has moved or the plan is to move to LT. That would explain his high number. Everyone else seems to be right. The main issue with the contract is panthers have "re-done" it atleast twice and made that 30 million cap number, in truth Moton has helped the team each time including this recent 3rd one. Again, just awful cap management. Personally Ive never been a fan, you seemed to be the total opposite. I have never thought of him as top 3 or 5 or even 10. My personal beef is he never became the LT, even after many ties during TC. I remember one off-season Daryl Williams was coming off a ACL tear and Moton remained at RT. Then williams got chewed on for that whole year as LT. Im not the NFL super fan I was, so me saying theres 12-15 better RTs would not said with much confidence. I just dont know the league like I once did, so I could be wrong about thinking hes in the 10-16 range. Just going off past knowledge on RTs with using that list- Lane johnson has gotten popped twice for PEDs and had a bad injury or two. Taylor just signed that deal and KC had to overpay cause they lost LT Brown. Ram is on season ending IR but Id say hes had alittle better career-wise. Others not much there to rank them, i maybe short changing Moton upon reviewing.

Before today, I thought he had a good chance to be cut. 30-40 million for average-good RT is bad football, no matter the scale. Now no idea. I do know If cut all those void years hit at once. Dalton was the other one. So Colbert, Shaq, and Dalton will push the dead cap to 30ish million. I honestly see no end within the next 2-3 years, Moton contract is another 30 dead space whenever he's cut.