Basbear

Took a Noah flood and that 2024 team is vastly different.

How you doing bro, I member you form the scout forums days. My memory sucks, but were you the one that painted?? I miss those days.

That's a rollercoaster one. Kinlaw when in the 20s(?) and some of huddle was mad panthers couldn't predict the future enough to trade back and pick. Rookie year kinlaw started hot best I member and as you know brown struggled for his first 1.5 years or so. Then was having a best 3rd PS TC and had a bad leg injury. Brown turned into King Kong and kinlaw never got over the injury.

Keep looking!

Brooks was a 1st round pick..........

They are going for it. If they are able to get a pass rush.... I dare say a deep playoff run could be in the cards for them.

I agree odd they keep adding to safety. Even with the Franklin injury they are still deep and dare I say, good players.

That's one of those win-win for everyone. Judon was a quiet problem a couple years ago, elite imo. Falicons lost their 3rd round pass rusher(he was starting) this past week and this is a great replacement. I've always been a huge Judson fan, he never got the respect he deserved.

I wish that saying would die, steel sharpens iron, *NOT* iron. Not picking on you, just panthers seem to pick it up this year and Ive been fighting saying for years.

I still had a couple of local strength guys around the queen during the 2020s. I heard nothing but respect for him- early in late out. Hard worker and didn't need any help/baby sitting. Dam shame about those freak injuries. Not since CMC has a rookie enter the league as a pro, that's horn. To finish on a hater note, the CB surtain picked right after him is nearly thought of as the best CB. More panthers luck.......

tepper is never wrong, so I have no clue how this will play out...

I've statements like this more than few times, panthers in the know {{{{{ SHOULD know they need to add a QB or two. Dalton is 38 and gone after this year. If young continues to suck, panthers don't just need starter, but a backup as well. Plus this roster is the weakest league wide and Im normally against carrying 3 QBs. But this weeak-ass roster can make room. Honestly panthers need another Jake delhomme miracle. A smart team would claim one of the cut and continue to make the team better. You can quote me on this- My ultra crazy prediction next year, panthers will sign Drew lock and roll with him in 2025

I say my surprise cut is this years 6th rounder DT Jaden Crumedy. leave it to Morgan to cut a draft pick on the worse roster incoming,,,,, just TJ Smith names keeps coming up. He had a sack in the PS too. Seems to be good with hands... I guess this is good news, but he would make the 3rd backup DLmen panthers found out on the streets. I feel they will claim around 4-6 players and IR players on the roster.

They were 2-15 and those 2 wins took miracles. Super easy to be looking at a 0-17 team. They lost more talent than gained. Didn't have a true 1st or early one since it went to the bears Maybe 8 guys don't need PS snaps- Dbrown, moton, Woods, AT, Clowney, Hunt(maybe), and a couple of others overlooked. Hill is one and the ST crew. Everyone else ESPECIALLY Young and Ickey needs to better themselves via reps. It's the only way to get better is to play.

I do remember some of the CMC and it was down to rams or 49ers. I think 49ers tossed in that future 5th and tipped the scale. Of course the Panthers picked the wrong team to fail. I think rams also got in trouble for hiding Stafford's injury, was it a thumb deal?? It makes no sense to trade for CMC or BB if they thought Stafford was season ending IR'd. I think they believe it was manageable, but Stafford is too tough for his own good. You are right about that rams draft saving their team, best in the league that year even without a 1st. Im not reliable anymore about recent or past history, so I will take your time-line of events over mine. Yep the bottom line is now the new status quo, panthers did it the wrong way.

Well, where did you finish?? If its 7th or worse, the gif is still valid..

I found one of mine past BB takes, I was ALWAYS hating on his weak run defense and I also took heat

Not going to disagree it wasnt Stoopid. Just there's a clear value difference between 3rd overall and 31st overall. In doing that trade, you got to label them as near worse case for your side ie 25th and later. Just about every year team had the cut off point for true 1st rounders at 14th(+/-). Those future 1st are not the same value of this year. The value would vary greatly. I was once one of those about in favor to trade for future picks, but the value of One year exp and 2 off-seasons has made me change. I think its a slight favor to the "Now" pick. Like you said even if the the 1st were of the later favor, its still worth. The one guy that wanted to do the trade got fired this year, made me think of another issue. I've said over and over, if you turn down that offer- YOU must resign BB. Im not his biggest fan, but he was only 25 with 5 years exp. NFL pays up for elite QBs and pass rushers.....even ones with weak run D. You got to see the Panthers side, yes .....(after the factt) with this sorry-ass team its hard. They believe they could be a playoff roster and thought BB would re-sign in the future. If you're a GM and strongly feel you are a playoff team, you simply can not trade a young pass rusher that "could"(lols) break out of his 8 sack slump. Please go back and bump those Burns trade trades, you will see me getting pissed about them passing on that offer. But I sorta see panthers side, even after it blew up in their face.

@NAS my guy LAST?!?!?? LOLs

when they were 3-4(??I'm not sure of this), they were still considered a playoff team form past years. I believe Stafford was healthy during the trade deadline and nearly the week after got injured with the thought he'd miss a few weeks. Im not doing back to check the dates, but feel correct. I think you are confusing the CMC trade with some of this. Im sure I'm off some in my 'details" as well. Plus if you added BB to the rams, who knows what effect it would have on draft picks. You got to believe BB has a big positive difference with teams focused on 99. The picks should/would be be much worse than 36rd and better 1st than the Panthers...