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https://www.si.com/.amp/college/2022/12/30/cj-stroud-ohio-state-quarterback-family-father-mother Good long read about Stroud. I’m sure it’s been posted before. He has had a pretty hard life and had to grow up at a young age. It looks like both he and Young also have great character which is important in a franchise QB.

Peyton played until he was like 38 which at the time was pretty good. He hurt his neck, but the reason he retired was his arm declined quite a bit that last year. If we are getting a Peyton Manning career I’d take it in a heartbeat. Brady is s great pocket passer as well but he sold his soul to the devil so he doesn’t count. It’s interesting because Stroud said he learned to play when he was little by watching Drew Brees.

Baker and Kyler love their heismans. Such good college QBs. The Golden Calf of Bristol’s is nice too… Manziel, Leinart, RG3, Mariotta, Winston, Bradford, Eric Crouch, Troy Smith, Jason White… So for every Burrow/Cam there is a list much longer of other heisman winning QBs.

Brees was rarely injured because of his play style. He always had a great OL and got the ball out quick. His game is actually much similar to Stroud’s.

If that happens they would use 32 and 39 to move back into the first and get Stroud his WR. https://www.si.com/nfl/panthers/.amp/news/panthers-will-host-ohio-state-wr-jaxon-smith-njigba-for-pre-draft-visit

I would have to go with Smith. He and Burns would be a nice combo for years to come. Flowers would be a close second.

Agreed. The top 2 QBs could both work in the NFL and should have a higher chance of success. No one is going to be surprised if either one is picked first. Both Stroud and Young dominated the college level of the sport, but it’s a lot more difficult at the next level.

No one is saying he is the same as those. We are saying that style of play in college isn’t a sure thing to translate to the NFL. Dancing around NFL players while absorbing hits is a lot different than doing it in college. Baker was great at that in college, it’s why he went number 1. Assuming that ANY QB in this draft can’t be a bust is pretty bold IMO, but you do you. Stroud has never been seen with even an average supporting cast for example. He could easily struggle in the NFL as well.

I’m just saying he had the best rating in all of the NCAA even with all of these “bad” pressure moments. If the opponent is getting pressure constantly like UGA was of course we are going to roll him out and let him make plays with his legs. If they don’t then he will make them pay from the pocket.

So did Baker. He ran around extending plays but definitely struggled doing so at the next level. In fact as we all know teams want to keep him in the pocket and take away his throwing lanes. Undersized, heisman winning, top pick, but has struggled playing his game at the next level.

Stroud “struggled” with pressure earlier in the season. His rating under pressure still isn’t terrible it’s just a good bit lower than his highest in the NCAA rating when he has a pocket. In fact his overall rating was the highest in the NCAA even including the under pressure rating. Later in the season when he actually got accustomed to having some pressure he did much better, just check out the UGA game.

Yeah no one knows for a reason. The Young fans will claim it looks like we are favoring him and the Stroud fans will say the opposite. We won’t know until the staff wants us to know.

Premature is what we do best here in the Huddle! I will say the contracts he is handing out and players he is signing make a lot of sense this year. If they don’t work out I don’t see any certain contract that’s crippling.

You’re welcome.

I know. It’s just my wish…

That’s why I kind of wish the Texans would make a move for our pick. We draft whoever they don’t plus more picks.

Yeah he definitely has an issue with it. He will need to work on that too in the NFL.

Yeah there are like 4 Young die hards that are all new accounts this past month. I have high hopes for the man, but these posters are definitely suspicious…

I mean Baker crushed it in college. He also was dodging defenders making some backyard football plays and won the heisman doing it. Now I’m sure Young is off the charts with his work ethic, but at the end of the day the offense will still be limited to a degree. I love the video @*FreeFua*posted the other day. People are getting too focused on finding the next Mahomes with those broken play highlights. Finding the next Mahomes will probably never happen. An elite prospect inside the pocket has worked consistently in the NFL. Think Brees, Brady, both Mannings and the lost goes on because 90% of the game can be played in the pocket. If they can extend the play under pressure that’s just a great bonus, but not really a primary trait.

Looks like a soccer team’s jersey…

I’m not worried about batted balls as much as missing open reads through lack of vision, not making the pass because the lane isn’t there, not being able to play under center, and of course durability. I just keep thinking of how great Baker was in college vs NFL. His size seemed to limit him more than expected at the next level.

Your assuming he has an ounce of reading comprehension skills…

Stroud is my preference. He is the safest with the highest floor and a Burrow ceiling. He just makes too much sense. I’ll be happy and excited with Young, but Stroud makes the most sense.