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Teddy’s career rushing yards at Louisville were 226 averaging .8 per carry Hooker was 2079 averaging 4 yards a carry. Yeah they seem sooooo similar…..

WTF? I'm not a huge Hooker fan, but the man is a way better athlete than Teddy. Bigger arm, bigger frame, and much better at running.

Yeah but they were moving from lower than 8 so the cost will be less. We will have Fitt and Reich picking their QB which the board seems high on. If the Niners picked Fields or even Mac it could have been very different. They also weren’t crushed from giving up their picks. They are still a very competitive team that could have won it all without the QB injuries just 2 years later.

They gave up too much and probably picked the wrong one.

Reich won a Super Bowl with Foles who was his backup. Wentz was the starter and helped them get there and was putting up a MVP season before he got injured. The Eagles jumped from 8 to 2 to draft Wentz 2nd overall.

What if being a scared mf IS my church?

Yes it can be fixed. Burrow tore his ACL and MCL his rookie year and looks fine. Watson tore his ACL and came back great. Hell TD tore his what 3 times? I understand the other issues, but he wasn’t going to start week one regardless IMO.

I guess the ACL injury doesn’t bother me if the staff likes him. ACL recovery has come a long way. The system UT runs is my biggest concern with him. I’ve seen several lobs up to wide open WRs where they slow down to adjust during UT games. I’m just saying the injury recovery isn’t as big of an issue as it seems. It just limits what teams can see from it pre-draft.

So when does AR get playing time in the NFL? Week 1? I know we are both ok taking him at 9 who probably isn’t playing right away either. The Chiefs didn’t play Mahomes right away, Rodgers didn’t start right away. I don’t think those teams regretted burning a first on either QB.

I’m just thinking if he can practice throwing with the team for training camp, maybe he can get some real game time midseason which isn’t bad for a rookie QB.

He tore it Nov 19th. So 9 months puts him in August. I wonder if he can throw without contact before then? It will be interesting to see how it all plays out.

He probably needs to sit a year anyway, but this link claims he could be ready by training camp. I’m sure we will have a better idea as the draft approaches.

That's a fair question. We would need to have a high rating on all 3 similar to the Niners when they traded up for Lance. It's a double edged sword really because if we wait and see if our top guy drops and he does say another team like ATL gets interested in drafting that same pick at 3 and it turns into a very fast bidding war.

I could see the Saints drafting him with that first they got from Denver for Sean Payton.

I think we move up to 3 and land Stroud/Young/Levis. That probably saves us that 2025 1st.

We are using Nick Goings at FB this year since Hoover is gone.

Good point, but I think Newton was a much more polished passer coming out than AR. I could be wrong though, it's hard to tell with the system/talent around them.

True or you could pulls a Buffalo and just have him tough it out while running a simpler offense with designed QB runs.

https://saintswire.usatoday.com/2023/02/21/2023-nfl-draft-rumors-saints-hendon-hooker-injury-report/ Looks like the Saints are showing some interest in him as well....

Arm strength, core strength, speed, and potential (AR is 4 years younger with only one season as a starter). Hooker also played in a very QB friendly system at UT with a couple NFL WRs around him. In 2020 Hooker was 98/150 with 1339 yards 9 TDs and 5 INTs at VT in a more pro offense against ACC defenses. He did have 620 more rushing yards and 9 TDs while still being older than current AR. I'm not saying Hooker is bad, just SOME scouts are going to see AR as the next Josh Allen (potentially) with his size, speed, and arm strength. His ceiling is through the roof, but there is a definite high bust factor in there as well.

GM Fitt already said if there is one you like you trade up and get him. Call it "GM speak" if you want, but he is usually pretty straightforward in his interviews. It also makes sense. We have an OL and a defense with several talented young players. You can't be afraid to go up and get your guy in the draft. https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/panthers-ideal-qb-situation-makes-them-trade-target-bears#:~:text=General manager Scott Fitterer clarified,up and go get him. He does say you don't want to back yourself in a corner and go strictly draft, but it's the most cost effective way to do it. Signing Carr and having to move our cap all around to fit his salary doesn't seem cost effective at all.

If he is actually ready for training camp that could make things interesting....