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Sounds like someone who isn’t fully confident in his ability as a HC. If you start winning, you don’t get replaced. He is waiting for a perfect opening like Sean Payton did and that started off rough fit him already. He could have drafted his QB in Washington and built a roster around him pretty quickly IMO.

And Ryans saying that Young and Stroud were their top two without saying who his top choice was? If it was Stroud and he got Stroud he should have no trouble saying so. It’s just one of the many cases of parroting the voices that back your opinion and disregarding the ones that don’t. We all do it.

So he has no connections now that he is retired? Why would he need to make up stories if he is retired?

McClain reported that Houston would have drafted Young if they got the top pick. So you don’t believe that report, but you believe this one?

Bryce was rated QB1 on more sites than not. It’s ok to acknowledge that. It now looks like Stroud should have been QB1 but that happens a lot. Mahomes went after Mitch. Lamar went in the bottom of the first. Alex Smith went 1st and Rodgers went late first. People may not like we picked Young, but we can’t try to rewrite history again and again.

There are clips of Bryce and ISM working out together. So he wasn’t completely isolated it but wasn’t really advertised because he wasn’t that great of a player last year. I think you are just taking that quote from his interview and running wild with it. He was giving a generic basic answer and didn’t really put much detail in it. I’m not sure if the ISM thing was lumped into morning workouts or he just didn’t mention it…

Yeah Stroud was the OROTY and one of the future faces on the NFL. He was on a lot of shows and events because he gets clicks/viewers and already has a strong fan base. I’d bet he was one of the top jerseys. He even played in the celebrity basketball game. I was just asking about him hosting these workouts with his WRs lol. I’m not sure what I’m getting every response possible but that one? I haven seen AR or Levis doing it either, but people keep mentioning Stroud specifically so I was just curious. We can move on now since I don’t think this is going anywhere…

That’s the only reason I can think of why they didn’t draft one. I still kind of wanted one later to develop behind Corbett. The only other thing I can imagine is they are strongly confident in these OGs making the change.

Who knows what they been promised and who knows if Tepper will or won’t honor it. Rhule said it would take 7 years but Tepper got over it quick (and thankfully so).

I can find quotes of certain posters on here referring Young’s as a PR stunt if you are doubting it. I mean it probably was to a degree. Anyone posting workouts on social is doing some form of PR. The trainer posted it on social to show the top pick “training” at his facilities. I’m just saying that one video was a Madden streamer promo. Twitch or something was the guy’s name. He is like a top Madden player. I just haven’t been aware of other ones. I believe Stroud was even catching passes from Diggs for fun during it. I was genuinely asking where the other ones were because you aren’t the only one mentioning them and I haven’t been following that closely. It’s something to take note of, if he is doing this and the other young QBs aren’t.

I’d love a 6 win season, and yes that comment is a new low as a fan.

I don’t really agree with it either but we appear the really want to be able to run the ball and have a RB that can become out feature back. I’m just not sure this staff was wanting to roll out a rookie center. CB or Edge would have been other preferred options as well. We are still pretty weak there…

I think they valued a feature back with hands pretty high in trying to salvage/help their young QB. Brooks was RB1 on several boards and they got him in the middle of the 2nd plus a future 2nd in the process. I’m with you on center being a concern, and just waiting to see how it all unfolds. I’m not sure if they are not wanting any rookies on the OL or what, but I hope they know what they are doing with Corbet and BC holding it down. Maybe they sign one on waivers as assurance? If they roll out with Corbett and BC at center and they struggle then it’s definitely a strike against this staff. We shall see…

I’m just asking for the throwing sessions that Stroud specially held all offseason for his WRs. I knew about the Madden thing. It’s turning into a run around and repeat of old topics. Yes Stroud is better than Young and yes Young is very small. Thanks for the input. Now is there any actual record of this original topic or are we trying to spin it back to something else to avoid answering the question? I don’t care if he did or didn’t but it’s getting mentioned like it’s a fact. I honestly don’t know if CJ even needed to, but I was curious to see the articles on it.

You went a long way without answering the question. Again I’m indifferent about Young and Stroud is one of my favorites. I just think a lot seems to be getting assumed here. For example Young got on social with his WRs last year and it was just PR. Stroud does a throwing session for a Madden streamer and he is putting in the work. I try to keep comparisons straightforward and fair, and Stroud has plenty to hold over Young’s head without trying to assume too much.

The CJ Stroud throwing session thing? Where did you find this? I’ve seen him throwing with Diggs and his WRs that one day where they were invited to play with that Madden video streamer. I also see where the first thing Stroud said he would do is take some time off. I keep seeing this being posted so I’m assuming I’m missing something? "First, I'm going to relax," Stroud said. "Take some time off. I've been going hard since I was like 12 years old. AAU tournaments, baseball, football, 7-on-7, high school, a ton of sports being played. It's been a blessing. It's been a ball. I'm 22 years old, and this is my first time ever having freedom away from school, away from college. So I'm excited. But at the same time, just like I'm ready to relax, I'm ready to get back to work, too. But I have to take some time to myself. It's just the right thing to do." Quarterback Case Keenum, who just completed his 12th NFL season, said a mental "recharge" and unwinding a bit is of the utmost importance. Especially in regards to the gauntlet Stroud just completed over the last 18 months or so.

Right his arms are noticeably bigger. There mare clips or him working with ISM in the gym and throwing passes. People are stuck in their opinions and it’s going to be polarizing until he either plays up to expectations or gets replaced. I mean last offseason he was working with his WRs and it was just a “PR stunt”. It’s like the news, people are going to spin comments/interviews however they need to in order to push their views/agenda.

Thanks for showing my point.

To follow the topic, I think Icky will look a lot better with a legit LG beside him vs the 4th stringers we were suiting up last year. The OL should look better with center being still a question mark IMO.

People will take quotes and use them to back whatever agenda they are pushing unfortunately it’s just part of it. The part about him doing his workouts every morning will get ignored by some while the part about Netflix will get highlighted. At the end of the day he will either produce or not. Until then we will have the same conversations over and over because it’s the offseason.

I kind of want to see what Maalik Murphy does as a starter at Duke. He has a cannon for an arm and would be technically draft eligible. He doesn’t seem that mobile though..

Fair point. We could have the 16th ranked offense with Bryce playing well. What if he is injured in that scenario. I’d still rather have an answer at QB and HC.

If Bryce mimics Stroud’s rookie numbers we have our HC and QB set. Two huge hurdles IMO. Our offense would probably be a top 10 as well with that kind of season and any hint of a running game.

Yeah the “eating crow” thing is dumb because at the end of the day most of us fans just want to see some wins. Sone have their guards up and some don’t care.

The offense is upgraded no doubt. OL, Johnson, XL, Brooks all should contribute this year. Defense is close but I think it’s more balanced now. If we sign Gilly I’d feel better.