45catfan

Assuming he doesn't get medically red flagged at the combine, want to wager that he lasts to the 3rd round?

Dalton is better, but point being we are still stuck with Young. "Fixing" him will pretty much take the entire season and if, BIG IF, Tepper finally allows the plug to be pulled, the season will be down the crapper already. And no, I'm not a fan of the 2025 QB class, at least for franchise QBs. So the notion of Young leading us to our next rookie QB after next year is not a palatable proposition for me.

Eh, you don't know my background on this subject. I was advocating for a FA QB this year foregoing the 2023 QB class and waiting until the loaded 2024 class at QB.

And no, taking a QB at #33 is not dumb, it's actually the correct move assuming Penix or Nix is there. That being said, there's no way Tepper would allow it.

A season late. Signing one of those guys should have been the solution this year. But the whole impatient owner thing got in the way.

So you think things have actually changed? New faces, except the one that matters. Figure it out.

Tepper apparently can and he's the owner over the GM. I think whomever is the new HC, benching Bryce will have to be run up the chain. You disagree? I don't think Tepper has stepped away from the meddling. Remember, Fitterer threw Reich under the bus for not 'fixing' Bryce quick enough. Unfortunately until Tepper is no longer the owner, things like benching the #1 overall pick will not be just the HCs call. Not in in this micromanaged organization.

Yup, but they aren't better than a QB we could get at #33 this year and that's my entire point. Penix and Nix would be higher than either Sanders or Ewers if they could have returned for one more year.

I'm cautiously optimistic about this move. Dude has been in football his entire adolescent and adult life. I think he may do well if he can keep Tepper in check.

At least Morgan worked his way up through the ranks of scouting. We shall see if he really has an eye talent. I'm telling y'all if he pulls the trigger on a QB at #33 (Penix or Nix) I'll be a huge fan.

If he benches Bryce after a bad start to the season, we will know who is--truly--running the show.

Yup, he brought pizza to one of the tailgates (maybe more) but at least one I attended. He was a cool dude.

I'm good. If I happen to be wrong about the 2024 and 2025 QB classes, I'll own up to it. No, it's not too early for receipts, BTW. Our season is over so 2024 draft talk/speculation is totally fair game.

Yup, but I also said if we did take a QB, he'd be the one I'd take....reluctantly. I'd still rather had all our picks last year and be set up to take a top 10 QB this year. But no, everyone had their panties in a wad because of Mayfield and Darnold. Patience is a virtue and outside of Rhule, Tepper has had none. Don't worry, I'm very confident this QB class will produce 2-3 solid QBs. Stroud may be the only one from last year and if so, I was correct. Granted he did a lot better than I expected, but Young looks bad, Levis looks like I expected and Richardson relied on his legs too often because he's so inaccurate resulting in the predictable injury.

I would hold a clipboard and collect millions just to watch a dumpster fire.

I'm going to be completely honest, I don't have an inkling and don't care. Tepper is gonna Tepper, so dude will be behind the 8-ball from the rip whoever he is. This is the most disengaged I've been in any coaching search in this team's history. Tepper has sucked about 90% of my fandom for this team out of me.

No, but he's older and an alpha. Tepper can't have an ego to match his. Belichick is older, even keeled AND an alpha--so you know he had no shot to come here.

Whew, that '25 QB class better show out this fall, that's all I've got to say. If we only had our first rounder this year...

Tepper wants a young and energetic coach. Apparently part of Reich's demise was not being an emotional or rah-rah type of coach; so being older and even keeled isn't the combination Dave is seeking.

A lot of WRs too, which is what we need. Actually, more WRs will be taken in round one than QBs.

We can knit-pick the players able to be counted on one hand that we think are good. The point is, over 22 selections, they can be counted on one hand. Even a carpenter with a table saw accident could probably accomplish this task with a missing finger or two.

You can't fix Young's height, frame or lack of arm strength. His horrible footwork is a factor of his lack of height--bouncing on his tip-toes in his drop back to see over the trenches What he needs is a WCO and we happened to fire a coach for not pushing the ball downfield and treating him like a point guard, which ironically is his strong suit. The dude is a backup at best.

The only correct move is the one we WILL not do. Fug Tepper.

Man, if we only would have waited to 2024 to draft a QB. Oh yes, I plan on dropping this nugget in threads for the foreseeable future.