Proudiddy

Yeah, I agree with you. Ideally I hope we can find a way to keep both of them. Hell, I'd rather throw in another 2nd rounder if it means we could. And I'd almost feel insulted that they are even pushing for both... I really, really hope we hold onto proven assets like Burns and Chinn in this. Brown, I couldn't give a fug less. Horn, I like him but the injury scares me a bit and we're deep at corner with a GM that comes from a background that was able to find them no matter where they're projected, so losing him wouldn't bother me much. If we could somehow convince them to take the chance on McCaffrey in place of one of Burns or Chinn and then send another draft pick in the place of the other, I would be ecstatic, but I agree with you about Tepper... his desperation scares me, and I think as evident with the Darnold trade last year, other teams smell it on him.

I just want it to be over either way. Can we please make the fuging deal or not and move the fug on? Again, i hope we can make it while holding onto Burns and Chinn, but I just want it made so we can figure out what tf is next.

I was starting to get cold feet a couple of days ago, but my how things have changed. I was in, then out, now in again... but regardless, my stance has always been that he would rejuvenate our franchise. I still don't believe in Rhule, but we would at least have a centerpiece again. That being said, I really hope we can make it out of the trade with Chinn and Burns still.

Which is why my guess is he knows what we're offering is outrageous.

Considering the fact that we gave the Jets more value for already established bust Sam Darnold, than what multi-time all-pro Khalil Mack just commanded when no other team was trying to get Darnold, I'd say that is a safe bet.

Yup, and loyalty doesn't mean much nowadays at all.

For those complaining about our interest. Imagine us not getting him but Tampa does and we have to play him twice a year.

Yeah, but its Cleveland so...

Welp, that eliminates us.

I could live with that.

I'm guessing that involves recently released players as well. Welp...

As big of a fan as I was of Watson the player, the longer this has dragged on, the less appealing it sounds. Regardless of what happens tomorrow, now the sound of trading 3 1sts, 2 2nds, and multiple players for a guy who has sat out an entire year and may still get suspended for another year just doesn't sound like the lemon is worth the squeeze. And the way the NFL has shat all over us at every possible turn for just about the entirety of our history, it wouldn't surprise me one bit if we turned around and made that trade tomorrow only for the NFL to then decide to finally step in after this garbage has carried on for over a year and suspend him for the whole season. So then we would be out of valuable picks for the next 3 years, down multiple defensive stars, and have absolutely nothing to show for it. And then as others have mentioned, I don't feel all too excited about acquiring a guy who apparently didn't want to come here last offseason, and now with the bonus of a lame duck staff in place. If we do it, and he's allowed to play, I'll be excited to see what he can do because he is indeed a hell of a player. He is the definition of a franchise player with MVP potential, on the field. But its all this other garbage that is so off putting. I was all in last offseason, but idk what it is a year later... I just don't feel froggy for this jump.

Which clearly led to his signings of Cam Erving and Pat Elflein to fix our OL woes. Brilliant!

I really hope Derrick Brown is the only one of those young guys moved if we make the trade.

Yeah that looks similar to what I think it will take... I really hope we hang onto Burns and Chinn though. Maybe throw Derrick Brown in there.

As much as it pains me to say... I think the Russ trade was just a starting point.

NGL, we'd have QB solved if he is on the field and playing, but boy... we will be hurting for quite a few years. Thinking about the assets is one thing, but seeing them in type stings.

I wouldn't even worry about them driving up the price with fake offers. Fitt is very connected to other FOs and agents, I'm pretty sure he has a solid idea of what's going on. The issue is, I don't think Tepper cares. They've said he has wanted to put his mark on the team with his own guy since he got here, and I think he'll do anything to make that happen even if it goes against the advice of his FO. He's a fuging idiot.

I figured, but this fuging sucks. May as well get used to it as long as Fhule is here... the word is starting to get out about how unprofessional and amateurish his "program" is down here and more and more vets are going to avoid this place like the plague.

Nah, I trust the FO and their evaluations. It's what happens once Rhule has a chance to use their acquisitions that ruins everything.

Wow. Surprised he still commanded that kind of value. *rimshot*

Albright sounds like he doesn't buy it.

Centerpiece of offense and defense gone in one day. Wow. That being said... would love to have Wags, but almost willing to bet money he ends up with New England. Fits the mold.

fug Seattle fans. They are some of the worst, most entitled, douchey people on the planet. I'm sure there are exceptions, but they deserve every bit of misery coming their way with this deal and in the future. Assholes.

He's terrible. He's played actual games and been unimpressive and there have been numerous reports that teammates have said he sucks. I would rather see if we can get Huntley from Baltimore, Re-sign Cam, and/or draft Willis.