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Don't get me wrong, I was going to be excited about the potential to develop any one of the guys that were available in the draft, outside of probably Pickett. But, really, where we picked and what was available at the time, it really comes down to Corral versus Howell. And again, to be clear, I was going to be excited about developing either... but, the one thing that bothers me most about picking Corral over Howell is that ever since the team ran Cam into the ground and injured his shoulder, we have struggled the most with the deep ball. And sure, teams can run functional offenses without it, but they never teach their full potential without it, imo. If you can't take the top off of a defense and make them respect your ability to do so, it shrinks the field and makes the defense have to work a lot less. It simplifies things for them to take away what you want to do. Look at the best offense in the league, and the among the things they do best is stretch the field... Now, back to Corral and Howell. One of the biggest things that stood out to me about Howell was all of the various scouting reports I read on him emphasized one of his greatest strengths is his deep ball. Many said he was the best deep ball passer in this draft. I also read he tended to struggle with his accuracy in the short and intermediate the more anticipation the throws required... on the flipside, I have read repeatedly that Corral is wildly erratic with his deep ball passing. Each guy has their strengths that excite you, and their weaknesses that scare you. I love Corral's guts, grit, his lightning fast release, his creativity with his athleticism and legs to evade defenders and make plays as a runner, the zip on some of his throws, and he seems to be one of those contagious leaders that teammates just love. His injury history and frame scare the poo out of me, and the inaccuracy issues on deep throws just doesn't sit well with me at all either. With Howell, I also love his guts and grit, his arm, his ability to make plays as a runner as well (although not as impressive as Corral's), and obviously his deep ball accuracy. He can and does literally make all of the throws. And as a fellow Tar Heel, he has the going for him... and regardless of how anyone feels with personal favorites or allegiances, it is still absolutely shocking that a guy who coming into 2021 was viewed as a Heisman favorite and was projecting to be a possible #1 overall pick, and at the very least the top QB of the class, lost multiple NFL playmakers from his offense and had to be the entire offense for UNC in 2021, has a tough year and slides all the way to the 5th round. That is just unbelievable. I honestly don't see how he slipped that far, and outside of his smaller stature, I don't really see the potential negatives as a passer that I see with Corral. As a player, if you ignore his lack of height, he looks like the superior pure passer. Now, back to the concerns... I get that McAdoo runs a more WCO and wants a good balance with the run game. But the thing that troubles me with this plan, which is essentially what we proclaimed we were trying to do under Brady. Now, with the incredible improvements we've made on the OL, that system may actually function now... but, people like pointing to McAdoo's success with GB and NY to a lesser degree... in both of those instances, he had a QB who could throw it deep, with Rodgers obviously being one of, if not the best in the league at it. If Corral can't effectively provide that threat, I worry about the ceiling that places on our offense, because eventually it puts us right back where we've been the last 3+ seasons. I'm just not a fan of the dink and dunk garbage, because eventually the defenses compression the field and we've seen how ugly it can get when your QB can't threaten them downfield - like Darnold's entire game played without a first down. So, all that being said, to me, the QB being able to throw it downfield accurately is one of the most important, if not THE most important aspect of an elite offense. All of the other stuff must be effective, but is all for naught if you can't stretch the field and stress the defense with your multiplicity. So, the fact that to this point, this issue has been one of the biggest areas Corral has struggled with is a definite concern for me. Don't get me wrong, this isn't intended to be a "negative nancy" post. I'm excited about Corral. I'm just concerned about the deep ball passing, especially when juxtaposed with what Howell offered as a passer had we chose him at that pick. I hope we can coach him up and get that part of his game consistent and legitimate as a threat on any given play.

Ahh yes! Pete Prickso still begging for attention.

Not sure how he or BC fit into the equation now, but we've discussed BC quite a bit this offseason... I, and many, project BC will kick into LG as the starter now with the addition of Ickey. And I know we also just drafted Mays, and have Corbett starting on the right, but it seems Brown has gotten lost or forgotten in the shuffle. I think a lot of where he falls is dependent on whether Campen thinks he's a mean enough SOB, but I was impressed in what little we saw of him last season. So, at the very least, even if he ends up latching on as a backup with a year of experience and development under his belt, our weakest position group for years may have just flipped to one of the NFL's best units in one offseason. It'll be interesting to see what his role ends up being this coming season with all of the moves we have made... I think it's possible he could push BC for snaps at LG too. Great job, Fitt.

Agreed, but all of the vibes we're getting out of the building indicate Rhule's say isn't as final, nor powerful, as it once was.

Yeah, cant be mad at it. Quality depth as a rookie, versatile, has played all 5 spots on the line... judging off his build and experience, I also wonder if he is an insurance plan for Bozeman after this season? Regardless, versatile utility guy. Good pick.

I trust Panthro. He has shared many things over the years well before they happened. That, and John Ellis also reported last night or this morning that Corral was the #1 QB on our board. This is BS.

I'm thinking DB or TE at our last pick.

Now. It didn't look like that his first couple of years as a pro.

My immediate reaction is this is a slightly more physical and imposing Reddick clone. Another great pick.

Keep a lookout for Dallis Flowers. Fits the Fitt corner profile... between now and UDFA.

Just wanted to post... I love Fitt, and he is building something special and has us moving in the right direction. But Brandon Beane is so fuging good, bro. They are killing it every draft.

We honestly need to just go ahead and pay him to go away for the year and trade a 6th for Baker or sign Cam back. Showcasing Darnold is the equivalent to having an open house at a condemned crack den. No one else is getting fooled by his sorry ass. Hopefully, he's either going to be on the bench or at home come week 1.

Fits the mold. Dang it... was hoping we'd get him.

Can we get a Fitt laser eyes pic in here?

Yup, I think so too. As Fitt said, we were looking for quality this draft, not quantity.

Pinned. Thanks Icege. Was gathering the details to try to post it, but you already had everything. Much appreciated. Funny enough, watching him, he looks a lot like Chinn, but I can see some Micah Parsons-lite in there, too. Really like the pick.

That is awesome. "I feel like I'm a fan in here stealing all of this stuff." What an awesome feeling. Happy for Ickey, and happy for us.

I haven't got to see his interview yet, but I read the transcript, and yeah, it seemed like the same thing there... and again, watching the pressers both nights so far, Rhule just seems out of place. It's clear there has been a HUGE shift.

Yup. I sensed that too. Very awkward moment.

I'd like to get the DB from UTSA, because at this point you're drafting for traits and physicals to see if you can develop their skills and make them into high-level players. Also, Williams, the DB from Fayetteville - gotta look out for my hometown brethren. Outside of those, our actual needs? MLB, TE, Edge in no particular order.

Yeah it had to do more with Sam than Matt. He just said more than he meant to reveal... they also unintentionally admitted that they had a first round grade on Corral. When they were first asked about it, they tried to be coy and talk around where they had him graded. When asked again, they both said they would've taken him "early." Then Rhule went further and said they had a first round grade on him. As high of stakes as these jobs are, they wouldn't have traded up for a guy they have graded as a first rounder, in the third round, only to think they just completely blew that trade and he'll be a bum.

He also conveniently ignored guys like Mahomes, Josh Allen, and Lamar Jackson. As far as his disposition, he looked even worse yesterday. I honestly think its because his role has been minimized and he's been relegated to being just a hood ornament at this point. I figure its because its had to have been a pretty big shot to the old ego to have gone from complete control over everything to having minimal input in everything as your job hangs by a thread. In both pressers, its clear Scott is in the driver seat and is commanding the room. Rhule is just there and even the reporters seem to sense it because when they address them, it tends to be directed to Scott first.

Love Corral's release and arm, and grit. Reminds me a bit of Jake. But man, his frame really scares me... Regardless of my alma mater, I think I favored Howell because he's got a sturdier frame and ran a more pro-style offense. But hey, we got a rookie QB with some good traits. Again, the frame and durability scares the poo out of me, but he has some skills that can translate and are exciting, and huge potential. Hope he works out and comes in and surprises immediately. And hey, I'm willing to bet even now that he's better than Darnold.

Woooooow. It was Corral?

We traded a 3rd for a 3rd? NE did us a solid right there. As much as I hate them as an org, I love them as a trade partner.