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So a grown man really posted this at 4am. That is dedication. Gotta be related to him or something.

If you're more comfortable with passer rating he's 29th. Literally there is nowhere to go but up for Bryce Young as a passer. It's been that dreadful. There are of course circumstances beyond his control that are magnifying this but still the numbers are the numbers. I don't like what I'm seeing either.

It's ironic thinking that the reason the Panthers are in this mess is because even when they were bad the last few seasons they couldn't even lose right and because of a few wins for the "culture" we could never secure a top 3 pick so we had to pay dearly to move up. Suddenly now the Panthers can actually lose right and are likely backing their way into the top pick that we don't have. Almost makes you believe in a curse.

He isn't the problem but he still has the lowest QBR in the league so he is certainly a significant part of it. Our offense needs to play better when the game actually matters.

So basically we've been shoveling a mountain of sh*t since we kicked Cam Newton to the curb like he was a total bum. Sounds fitting.

Condolences for your loss. Seems like dialogue here is too heavy for some. At the end of the day it is only words on a screen. And the state of the team since our new owner tookover has created what seems like a constant downward spiral. The discourse as a result has and will continue to be contentious at best at times. It sucks but that's the predicament and it isn't going to change relatively soon. If anything on his board has anyone here questioning what they're actually doing in life then I wish them the best of luck going forward and finding peace.

Wilks wanted to keep Holcomb on as DC I don't recall the names for OC but once you got past the hype around his local ties the vibe was Ron Rivera redux. He probably would have been better than Reich but there's some revisionist history being applied to make Wilks something he wasn't.

He's a bad GM. To even argue he isn't is ridiculous beyond words after some of the messes that Marty Hurney has overseen in years past. This gives those a run for their money if not actually being significantly worse considering what we have mortgaged and traded to get to this point.

It's an auto filter on the board. Fùck and Shìt are automatically changed to fug and poo. It's been that way for a long time. Probably not really needed anymore but people have gotten used to it.

Maybe we just need a subforum for everyone that wants to be sunshine and rainbows even if the team is in complete disarray.

There's no need for anyone to make things very personal beyond his abilities as a player and his performance on the field. I'll agree with that. But the kid does not need anyone throwing him a pity party. That's the last thing he needs. It might not be fair in the eyes of some but this has always been the weight of being a #1 pick. If anyone has moral concerns about this well you probably shouldn't be watching football anyways considering some of the fuged up players that have been allowed to remain in the league. Anyways the #2 pick has had the same weight put upon him and he was going to what was widely regarded as the worse situation to a franchise that's done nothing and has very little pieces to work with currently. He seems to be responding with a full package combination of leadership grit and determination that you would expect from someone picked there. We should and will expect the same from our #1 overall pick.

Nah he isn't in a hurry to come back because he was a Scott Fitterer apologist and that's blown up in his face upon the realization he is our worst general manager by far.

There are many things I like about Bryce. Both these guys are good human beings and have talent. I'm still going to watch and see how the rest of the season goes. But I can't delude myself and pretend we didn't look at the QB with the clear best arm talent available and say hey no thanks I'm good. That's going to take some more time than a month. Hopefully we get a real head coach in here next season. In the meantime this season the team is only sinking further. The locker room is only going to take so much of this too. Defensive players are already basically giving up. It's going to get uglier.

If go root for the Texans is all you've got you're standing in front of a tidal wave. If you can't handle the heat that these two will be talked about you might as well hide under a rock it's going to remain until one of them is no longer playing. We're over here looking at basic throws when our team is being blown out and trying to convince ourselves it's progress. When you pass up on the best arm in the class this is what happens.

My guy I'm going nowhere I'm just speaking my mind. It was a layup pick. This will be talked about for years these two guys careers will always be connected as long as they are both in the league. I still don't get why you jumped ship but you do you.

The reasoning for the signing was to help ease the transition for our rookie. I didn't think Sanders would be this terrible. I wanted an RB in the draft. Fitterer is short sighted always looking for instant even if it hurts the cap. We should have damn well known our oline was still a work in progress. You don't shop for running backs in free agency with the slop depth we've been fielding on the oline.

I'd still rather be saying this about the best QB in this years class though.

In fairness these same remarks were made about Dalton. Garbage time yada yada. And we actually kept that one close. It's always how it's going to go if your team is blown out. But. I will say today our defense was ass. It's looking like some guys in the locker room might be done.

There were a few things to like. Need to see it when it matters. I've heard a lot from certain folks here about garbage time stats so let's see some magic when the game is on the line or within reach.

I see his team lost missed the last update. Still more impressive than anything we've done sadly.

Game winning drive though.

Still can't believe we passed on that layup of a pick. Arm talent was there for all to see. But MUH LEADERSHIP.

Like the touchdown to Chark that's a nice throw to see. Too bad about the rest though..

I agree but Wilks would have been the new Rivera. We had our chance to make a run at the Eagles OC and Mr. Tepper was too impatient.

You draft that at #1 overall though. And you certainly don't trade what we did to do so.