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Tepper earned some harsh criticism you don't have to dive in front of that for him like that Elon Musk meme. If he's learned from the Rhule debacle and is letting real football people make decisions he deserves some credit too now. Of course we still have to see what will be done at QB. If we just throw a ton of money at Derek Carr (reclamation project 3.0) instead of drafting our own young QB in the first round then that will feel like going backwards and undue any progress made with these hires.

Gettleman apologists still exist?

Both in their thirties too. And both could be in line for head coaching opportunities in the future. Good stuff.

"Al Holcomb is my DC hire me now" lol

Too late. He's a Darnold believer.

Excellent hire. Staff is looking very good. With all these additions we've got to be looking at making a move for a QB in the draft. No way we are doing all this just to make a run at aging Derek Carr. Go big and get our young QB now.

Well that's hogwash. Who says it's a bad thing. You? I relish the idea of us drafting a QB in the first that could finally lift this franchise out of this terrible funk where people sit around polishing turds that are failed QB's like Sam Darnold. Or wanting us to throw 30+ million a year at someone like Derek Carr. There are people here who do not want us to draft certain QB's because they still want the game to be played a certain way. I want QB in the first and I'll support whoever it is. But again I know if it's Stroud or Richardson the same folks who groaned about Newton and now Fields will continue the same trend. Me? I just want to win. And I want a QB who is going to bring some attitude to this team not this aw shucks just happy to be here nonsense.

I cannot wait until we draft Stroud or Richardson and the Fields haters sit around gritting their teeth the next several months.

Oh boy here come the tales of woe. "One time Steve Smith pushed me down and stole my wallet".

Meh. The blood and guts game settled anything that needed be said or proven in either direction. And if we had 89 in SB50 we likely win. But it's all history now.

If we do draft Stroud I wouldn't be surprised of OldhamA eventually gets himself banned. I say go for it.

It's really weird you are high on Stroud but also have a boner for someone like Carr. He's 32. He doesn't even have the youth factor going for him like the other reclamation projects (Mayfield and Darnold) we convinced ourselves might somehow work out in our favor. The one plus though is if we sign him to a huge deal and he stinks folks like you will pretend you never wanted him. That might be worth it to laugh at

Cons?

I hope they do it. Their roster is not nearly as good as the Ravens and they will give up a haul too. Win for us.

The analysis says neither are worth the investment given the circumstances. Draft your own.

Virtually no one here has actual inside sources at least not anyone that posts frequently. That doesn't stop hundreds of posts from being made here daily. Going with your logic no one should talk about anything here anymore. But it is not a stretch to suggest Carr would not be appreciative of his new team drafting a QB in the top 10 shortly after signing him to a commitment.

Maybe not to you but reports from his now former team indicate he wants a full commitment. If there's any chance at all he would take offense to us still taking a QB at 9 he can fug off and fleece some other team.

Well we can't be afraid of developing a young QB. Matt Rhule was. But we've got decades of wisdom on staff now. Chasing discarded veteran QB's should be the last resort for such a seasoned staff we've built.

I wish Fields the best but with us very likely eyeing our own QB in the draft it's time to start thinking about moving on from this discussion altogether. Let's just hope Jaycee can stay healthy enough to see through the promising career we expect given where we selected him.

Well what other choice is there anyway? They are making moves that give us reason to be optimistic. I will try to remain in that frame of mind until they give me a reason not to. Bringing in another retread QB would give me flashbacks of nothing very positive.

When the time comes you either take the risk or you play it safe. We've seen the results with bringing in other teams leftovers. Try a different approach.

Yeah we're on different pages here. You thought I meant Super Bowl window I was referring to the time left in Carr's career to win or compete for a championship. If he isnt competing for one in the next couple of seasons it isn't going to happen doesn't matter if it's us or someone else. I'm not in favor of throwing a contract at him so you don't have to convince me. But based on you posting that CBS tweet you seem to be a believer. That's cool.

Boy does some of that sentiment sound very familiar. I remain of the opinion that our only path forward is via the draft.