frankw

My guy I've seen countless either mediocre or flat out awful QB's with my own eyes playing for this team. The offensive issues are not on one player and so far our head coach looks clueless but Bryce Young needs to play much better football too. I'm sorry you're too delicate to discuss that but we acknowledge reality here.

When you're the fan of sports franchise with 7 winning seasons in 27 years and zero winning seasons in the last 6 years you call a turd a turd when you see it. You can also hope it's possible to turn things around without giving new coaches who have already been fired once free passes because someone tells you that's what a real fan would do.

You guys remind me of Sam Darnold stans. That's not a good thing.

Anti intellectual would be propping up one set of data that fits the narrative while ignoring clear data that shows he's the lowest ranked quarterback in the league and has the 3rd lowest YPA of any QB ever in their first two starts. Nothing is set in stone but it's going horrifically so far. That's the rub.

State of things right now:

Wrong thread

It's wild we've only made it through 8 quarters of football and the pre-draft concerns so many folks wanted to dismiss are front and center as the elephant in the room. Just because folks have years of football knowledge doesn't mean they'll get the call right. There's plenty of time left but it's starting out about as worse as it possibly could.

After only 2 games? Say it isn't so.

Oh for sure in Europe and even South America they'll kill ya over Soccer. There was a referee I read about some years back who players returned after the game because of a call they didn't like and beheaded him. Left his severed head on a pike. Insanity.

Drunken fisticuffs over sports is about as dumb as it gets in this country.

If you're this angry defending an 0-2 Panthers team with a bottom 3 offense maybe it's time to unplug for awhile my guy.

I've gotten hundreds of poo emojis from Bryce Young stans since back before the draft. Look at the sad state of affairs now. As the saying goes ya reap what ya sow.

Hey @AceBoogie too bad sitting around pooing posts at 8 in the morning will make this Panthers offense look any better eh

Early Cam had extremely obvious arm talent. He was a national champion. I don't doubt Bryce’s intelligence or grit but right now the issue is we do not know if Young has or will ever have the physicality to consistently produce as a passer in this league long term.

If the term "sucks" is what you take issue with then substitute it with something else. But he has not been "good" and that's all that matters. In that regard neither has the offensive coaching staff either. They need to get their heads out of their asses.

I think it should be pretty obvious to anyone there are layers to the offensive problems and the receiving core assembled by Scott Fitterer is largely a dud. But Bryce got rattled last night and was making some errant throws. He isn't going to get much breathing room on a short week that ends with a visit to the Seahawks. The game film from the Saints is going to be the blueprint he's going to have to adjust and make more downfield attempts even if it results in some turnovers in the meantime.

Nobody in the division gives a poo about showboating in 2015. Most of those players are gone. The Saints Falcons and Bucs are all new look. Besides the entire league and now social media is all about boasting and rubbing other teams players and fans noses in it. Welcome to 2023.

CJ always had the arm talent. It was his intelligence and character that were unjustly attacked ala Cam Newton. It's still early we'll see. But man if we end up with the wrong QB from this draft... That stink isn't ever washing off. The offensive coaching staff and players have a long week ahead of them.

I agree there are multiple factors at play as to why our offense is so bad overall the roster that Fitterer has built and the coaching staff are not helping matters. But you are downplaying the level of not good Bryce Young has been. That's your prerogative but I am in complete disagreement. He's not some mid rounder like Corral or Howell. We are in worst case scenario waters and it's only week 2. He's got to turn things around in some way soon.

And heading into this season Reich was one of the leading coaches who used the QB sneak almost to a fault on his part. Either he is a complete idiot or he didn't have full say on the pick. The more we dig into this season the more I get the sense all this stuff about our all star coaching staff and front office making the pick as a collaborative effort was smoke and mirrors. It really does look like Mr. and Mrs. Tepper made the call.

You think his play has been good? More power to you I guess.

Some great replies around here wish I wasn't out of pie. Tepper is ultimately the problem.