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If that wasn't a throw away but an actual pass attempt, then he should be cut right now, not tomorrow, not even just "today" but right this very second.

That doesn't necessarily make him a bigger bust Look, I'm not remotely defending Bryce, my history here has proven that I'm anything but a fan. But I think people forget the hype around Wilson and Lance vs the amount of non hype there was around Bryce except for a few small number of people. That alone is why I just can't get to where I rank Bryce with those all time bust labels. Even guys like Russell and Leaf had supreme amount of pre-draft hype around them, levels Bryce never reached in the lead up to that draft.

Honestly it depends on your definition of bust. I think there is an argument to be made that he's not even Top 2 since 2021, and that's coming from one of the bigger anti Bryce people here since before we even drafted him. I think Zack Wilson and Trey Lance both had more pre-draft hype than Bryce did, maybe by a wide margin, and both of them ended up turning out even worse than Bryce has. Plus the 49ers gave up almost as much as we did for Bryce to take an unproven raw D2 QB who hadn't played in a year because Covid shut that level of football down. While the Jets turned down all sorts of big offers to take Wilson as well. We made Bryce a bust by making the trade and then taking him, despite him not being liked by many analysts for the same reasons that was clear to so many of us fans. It was widely talked about being a bad QB draft, so much so that the Bears stuck with Justin Fields for another year and traded away the #1 pick because of it. So as bad as Bryce has been, I honestly don't think he ranks near the top of the all time busts list, mainly because I think people forget he wasn't some can't miss prospect and we're the idiots who made a bad trade to take him to make it just look worse.

We lost our depth 48 hours apart when we traded our #3 and put the #2 on IR

No, you’re just mistaken They were showing Hunter highlights on offense and then went to the one of him on defense playing a charmin soft zone on T-Mac. The guys in the studio didn’t realize they were them showing a defensive clip of Hunter and were laughing about the soft coverage “we” were playing on him, and then they realized it and corrected themselves. They were joking and saying something like “what would you call that coverage? Would that even be considered a soft zone?” And then something else I don’t remember. Then they realized it was a clip of him on defense and not our coverage on him.

This They were making a joke about what kind of defense Hunter was playing, 100%

Again, one play doesn't change a full game's narrative. They had 32 carries for 200 yards. Take away Etienne's single long run of 71 yards, and they only had 129 yards on their other 31 carries. If I told you a team had 31 carries for 129 yards, I don't think anyone would say that team defended the run poorly in that game. I'm not excusing this game, the players, the staff, any of it. I'm just saying people who look at final box scores and try and make the averages or totals be the narrative for an entire game are just being purposefully obtuse to try and make their point and hoping people won't realize it.

I've seen people bring up the "7 yards per carry" a few times already, and while a little bit true (and also a little false), it's also a tad disingenuous Because they didn't average 7 ypc, they averaged 6.3, which is 10% less. And if you remove the 71 yarder that Etienne broke off, they only averaged 4.1 ypc the rest of the game. I'm not saying we were great, and you can't just pick and choose plays to remove from stats to fit a narrative. But our rush defense was nowhere near as bad as saying "they averaged 7 yards per carry" seems to insinuate.

Is it weird that this makes me like him more at the moment? Rhule would have tossed the entire team under the bus, but Canales steps up after almost the entire team looked terrible (and half the time due to their own dumb mistakes that have nothing to do with the coaching) and said he was the problem and not the players. It does show some leadership to do that and I kinda like it, but man, post ass kicking pressers aren't going to help us win games or win over the fans, need to turn it into wins.

My bad my Wildcat brother I feel like I spoke it into existence for him to become a Panther, and all I did was saddle my GOAT with this team, this offense, and unfortunately this "Quarterback" My excitement of the last 4 months since we drafted him has quickly turned into "oh poo, please just don't ruin his career before it's able to get off the ground and show him to be the player I know he can be"

For me it’s the small but dumb mistakes Not getting his other foot down, catching a 5 yard pass and then running back to the LOS to end up with a 1 yard gain. Its maddening to see an NFL WR make the mental mistakes he makes, and that’s before you get to his limitations as an actual pass catcher.

I’ll be honest, I was thinking we need to try and trade XL by the end of the game too. He just doesn’t “get it” and I’m not sure he will, he still has trade value right now before the rest of the league gets it, I wouldn’t be against exploring that option once Coker is back.

It wasn't even 4th and Goal, that's what makes it worse, he could have tried to scramble for a 1st down as it was 4th and 1 at the 5ish. And yea, T-Mac is a #1, told ya'll for the last 2 years, hahaha

I've been saying this since the middle of last year. He's not a good QB but he has a live arm and isn't afraid to try any throw, he'll cost us games, but he'll help develop these young pass catching weapons better than Bryce will. Just develop them for the year and go back to figuring out the QB situation next offseason.

Will it though? Not sure how anyone can defend him after this one, yes, we've had other issues too, but he's been awful

"was" but most certainly isn't now, T-Mac is the real freaking deal, he's shown it today too. Miscommunication on that pass he didn't turn his head on just now, but beyond that, he's looked the part

seriously? throwing it away on 4th down? cut him now, fug

damnit, give him that catch

No way he goes to a team with an OC as a HC, he'd go somewhere with a defensive minded coach so he can just run the offense how he pleases. Wouldn't surprise me to see him end up somewhere like with the Lions

Should have been the gameplay from the start He had a nice catch on that play that was called back too.

Yep, hope for a PI call to then be able to kick a FG That half was just embarrassing

Will they still do a halftime after all this or will they just do halftime as if it's in between quarters and take a long commercial break?

The Florida based teams really should never open the season at home in Week 1

Arizona's game was also delayed 2 some hours last night as well Now this Apparently I must have pissed of Thor this week, sorry Greg