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It’s like Billy Bean took his on base percentage to the NFL. Zzzz. Yes it might work but watching it in action is boring.
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Probably talking about two different things but I think they intersect at the point of backyard football with the shift to prioritizing athleticism. Because athleticism pays off without having to do the development. You see it in OTs when scouts don’t know how to assess their aptitude for the pro game. 10-15 years at least. And you see it in the QBs too. I think it goes with the overall thing in society where instant gratification trumps all these days. If you buy into that.
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The idea is… you asked AI for busts because you wanted a bust to compare to. Could have just said QBs but you wanted busts. In the other scenario, people wanted success stories. There were plenty of busts that had shitty rookie years but that didn’t suit the agenda. They needed successful draft picks with a rough first year. They found some, and excluded the returns that didn’t suit their agenda… those who had a shitty second year too lol, and busted out. And those are largely the names you offered when approaching it from a different angle, one where those names would bolster your assertion. I just thought it was noteworthy.
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And I don’t understand why you call on me to produce strawman stats. If you have a point, which stats cannot make in relation to my statement in the first place, put them up. Again, if a guy can throw 40 yards on a rope, and another guy 20, and they count the SAME… who is getting discounted? Short changed? Need a hint?
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You ignored the rest of my comment, conveniently. That way you don’t have to acknowledge it. That’s fine. When you let 20 yards into such a category, there isn’t anything left. The guy that can zip on in there at 40 where Bryce has to float in it, is basically discounted 50%. Here it is… you love Bryce. If he was the guy that could do a 40 yard rope, you would support the opposite position. That’s what this is. Not an honest real evaluation of talent and ability, but a self serving strategic debate that will shamelessly exploit any loophole that suits the agenda.
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BREAKING NEWS: Trevin Wallace out for the year
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Okay in baseball and in football you build inside out and need to be strong up to middle. It still is valid after over 100 years. I am pretty much thinking ILB is a glaring weakness and shouldn’t be ignored. Fix it. If we get great edge guys, all the other QB has to do is throw over the middle, poo will be open. And if that isn’t true I don’t even care because I still have years of watching what a talented ILB can do for a defense. Across the league and for sure with the Panthers. I want one no doubt dog and one real good sidekick. Watch things get good. Thank you in advance. -
I feel like that is a result of the state of the game in college and the state of the players that that they produce. This has been a long time coming. I don’t have stats for this but I feel like the NFL is well on the decline regarding the quality of the product they are putting on the field. I imagine it is really tough to be a scout or GM now with this NIL foolishness. The players used to spend 3 or 4 years under a staff where people knew what they were being taught at least. What system they were going to be raised in. Now it is a year here, a year there, no structure. This will further degrade the NFL product IMO if allowed to run free like it is now. .
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20 yards gets you in the club. They have fuged this all up. If a guy can do the same trajectory and velocity throw at 40 that Bryce can do at 20, who is getting under appreciated?
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Let’s see… young people know young people perspective things. People that survive into old age or seniorhood lol, we were young also. We have that, and we have the added perspective of many more years and situations. The old people know a whole lot more than your youthful arrogance allows you to understand. FTR. So STFU with your disrespect for our experience.
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He scares me with those comments he made. What’s to stop him from retiring if he is traded? Maybe he really is burned out.
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Your examples are very telling. It’s funny. Not ha ha funny, more like ironically humorous. When that rookie season was down there with AR and Jamarcus, what we heard over and over was Peyton Manning had a horrible rookie season. So did… Brees, Elway, all your picks that became uLara successful. Never ‘hey Jamarcus had a shitty rookie year… and a shitty sophomore year’ etc. … uh oh. Never that. The comparisons alway favor the Bryce fan’s hopes and don’t allow for the real possibility he isn’t those guys. Whatever side or angle you bring them from. Always the bright side. It’s entertaining at least, a little, in its consistency. Can people see what has been done, scheme wise and personnel wise to make him somewhat viable? I wonder about that.
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You are dictating a ‘settle’. Like you can only have one, you can’t have both. Fine if you can only have one, it isn’t the worst choice. But it is settling by nature because there are people with both. It is simple, we have limited ourselves by choosing a player who has narrower margins for error than guys with the traditional QB physical attributes that people came to so highly value. And some people are happy about that. Truth has always been that we made it harder on ourselves than it had to be. As Parcels said, he needs to walk on water. That is expecting a lot. And we now have to feed that beast.. there is a fundamental divide here that will never resolve. Even if he elevates his play.
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So that’s what it is. All I knew was it gets worse as you age. my anatomical expertise is specialized and focuses on the females of our species, so I did not know that.
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Way to make poo personal.
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Me either. On the laptop it is right there. Not in the iPad or phone that I am able find. Now I did see something I plan on trying and that is where they have chapters and you can go there and click on a segment. I will try to link to that instead of the main title. I just don’t post much video so haven’t tried that yet but it should work.
