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It is a scenario that was made for us. It’s like, a no brainer for me.
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I have wanted to do that since I first looked at the draft order and the crop of players. A lot of it is, just not that impressed with the selection we are likely to have at 19. And then when I learned how good some of these ILBs are I never bought that we could sit at 51 and get one. So trading back helps us have a chance to move up for one of those guys. To me it is a win win. Get better value with your 1st, and assure you can get your dawg in the 2nd? Yes, all day long.
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Well somebody has to look like a 19 pick or there won’t be any trade propositions. I hope one of these overhyped guys falls and we can trade out to pick later in the first.
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It is time to Consider the Likelihood of WR at #19
strato replied to MHS831's topic in Carolina Panthers
We are going to have to part with those contracts anyway at the latest, after 2027. Here’s what I think about sinking another 1st into WR: the cumulative passing yards won’t be affected that much. Yards and targets will just be redistributed. Because Bryce can’t play the ‘beat you with his arm’ type of game against 3/4 of the league. Only the weak sisters. Make us one dimensional and the QB hasn’t shown he is up to that. So we have to run a ton. It’s just how it is and the typical Sunday will have lower passing numbers as a result. Yeah he did pull off a great 4th quarter vs LAR in November and looked good against them in the rematch. Did people notice that they responded to that by maki g big moves to upgrade their pass defense? It was a weak unit. Like Atlanta was a weak unit. If he is gonna get better at that vs strong defenses he needs stout protection. Dan showed at first that he understood this, but the OL has been degraded. That room should be maintained as a super strength. I guess it is ‘chicken or the egg’ re Young or his WRs that are to blame but we have seen three years of Bryce’s act. Couldn’t get a TD for Tet until week 6. That’s OROY too. That’s where my opinions fall. -
He got Coker, or somebody did. But we need more outside of that 1st round. 1st round is like hitting from the ladies tee.
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It would be like watching Atlanta is for us.
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1st round WR again. This will be so great. Imagine if we had a QB worthy of all of this. It might be something.
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We have taken two TEs in three seasons I think, and Sanders may not pan out or it may have been a sophomore slump, but we took a guy last year that was coming on. I am not in favor of TE in round one and really don’t consider it a high priority in any round.
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It seems to me Canales just ain’t that smart, on the imaginative side of the brain. He wouldn’t be able to study McVay’s offense, for instance, and reverse engineer it. Of course, LA has a QB that once threw the ball almost 80 yards and Canales doesn’t and has to work around that. He needs a lot of help around him to be effective, I think he is smart enough to know how it though. That is why Bevell. I am real curious to see if they actually redesigned the offense, overhauled the playbook, etc. All I can picture though is a Seattle Russell Wilson chunk it as high and far as you can and hope, and a big running game. But I am not that imaginative either, and definitely struggle to visualize how much they can really do when they probably have to avoid certain areas of the field in the passing game.
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Both things can be, and are true. He may be no offensive genius but he is an offensive minded coach.
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They should be looking at winning now, in their position. Scrimping on OL depth is not a recipe for that though. We are scrimping now, with a couple of shaky cornerstones that should not be taken for granted. If we can’t run the ball what do people think happens with Jr back there and his tippytoes and his can’t see the field and bails the pocket as easy as breathing? If Moton misses time, we will be so fuged. Right now, if Hunt or Lewis go down we have Zavala? C is kind of iffy. I can’t fathom people thinking a guy that will get a few targets a game is more valuable than having the OL overbuilt and prepared for attrition. But y’all go on with your Madden/7 on 7 thinking.
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How isn’t he? For realz? You can’t call him defensive minded. Total roots in offense. And he was pretty much completely hands off the defense at least year one. He isn’t being accused of being an innovator, or anything close. He is a copycat I think.
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Even when he is at his absolute best, he is still limited compared to guys with better field vision and arm strength, that can process. Talking the top shelf types. I can’t see him ever being that. Ever. What I think could be interesting is what the offense or playbook looks like if they actually do try to build the offense around his strengths. I would love to see something radically different than the last three years. I don’t know what it could be though.
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I’m not scouting them myself. I quit spending hours and hours on that all the way back when Hurney would trade out of a pick and all my ‘scouting’ was worthless. I did do 2023 because it was unique. I heard the stuff you are saying and then I read some stuff that went counter to it. It is probably more that I didn’t think the Clemson guy was rated that high.
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I fact checked this before posting, it is true: the 2027 class helps nothing in 2026. On to opinions… 2027 tackle class is strong and deep. So is the QB class. What do you think we’ll take first, if we wanted both? T or QB? Because if Bryce doesn’t tighten it up considerably in 2026 they would be nuts not to be drafting a QB. And that cuts you out of drafting a pro ready tackle. Which you will need to be pro ready. And the chances we are looking for a new RT as well as L is fairly high, given Moton’s contract and expected decline. He is starting to wear down it looks like to me, and the price keeps going up. After 2026, it might be time to move. Durability wise, cap wise, 2027 may require it. There could be a lot of bills coming due at once, I’d just as soon sacrifice the WR party this year for some security. If Icky hadn’t gone down, this wouldn’t even be a thing. But it happened and it is a thing.
