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Freedom of discussion aside, I mean people have every right to discuss any potential player… he is 30 and his best seems to be behind him. Sure, he can be as good once as he ever was, but we haven’t been doing this with anyone from the outside unless I’m forgetting. He doesn’t fit the obvious profile of what the bosses will sponsor. We’ve been doing guys still in their mid 20s who have some headroom on that 30 ceiling.

https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp Going by this chart that won’t get it done, at all. both of our 5th rounders are worth 56, total. The 51st is valued at 390. Moving to 41 takes 100 points. In the second where we are, it is basically 10 points per slot. You can get in front of TB for 60 points. Baltimore at 45. Which who would do that for 56 points? You are on a wing and a prayer. To realistically have a good shot at these top guys, outside of Golday, it is gonna take at least 100 points, I am thinking. And when they go, Golday’s market probably gets a lot hotter. Just going by the rankings/valuations, I am thinking if you realistically want to assure you get your guy it will take trading back in the first. Which is why I have been saying to do that if we can. For example 19 is valued at 875. 21 is 800. That, plus one of the 5ths gets you to 100 points which you theoretically could use to get to 41. I think there are going to be several good options for us at 19, if we are good with taking what is left at 21-23 we can get a good player plus fund a trade up for one of these LBs which is what I am thinking makes sense.

Well, thanks for at least trying to explain. I still don’t get it. To me, Beane and McD were like the ones that got away. I think I see enough in Morgan, combined with their recent dysfunction up there, to not pine for Beane anymore. McD is sold though.

It doesn’t bother me that people are bothered by this but at the same time I don’t get why this does bother people. Beane and McD knew people here even in the Tepper years before Morgan.They can probably get the scoop on why we let them go, if they are healthy, stuff like that. There would be a comfort level in those circumstances.

I think that DT is the only option that I would consider passing on an OT for.

I have kind of settled on Golday if we stay at 51.

Well, you can call it something else. Preliminary rankings. People are going to react. I remember years of ‘Panthers will not be active in the first wave of FA’ where we had nothing to rank. Now that we are moving and shaking people get excited. Especially when the GM performs as if the fan base has directed him. Most wanted pass rush, ILB and to fill the Icky hole with at least something. It all got done.

I haven't changed from my first thought which was trade out of 19 down a few slots. Use the booty to move up in the second to get someone we want. 51 seems just a bit out of the zone.

My reaction was “why in the hell would they do that?”

Lol and since they are not signaling that to Dallas, it means they are taking one if they can. lying season. Good luck deciphering the truth.

I always felt it should be, but when I play it out in my head we are at the end of the buffet line. The year one guys are gone at 19. The player who might be ready in year two, you could get later, so value enters into it some. Maybe it turns out better. The draft is such a dynamic process, one curve ball early can throw everything out the window for a few picks.

If Tepper is in on Morgan, and if Morgan thought that was the best strategy, he has to let him be unafraid to make his move. Whole lot of ‘ifs’ there. It is the least sexy 1st round pick next to not having one, not much Christmas morning ‘unwrap your presents’ feel to it. But when I look at the big picture it is a solid option. We have to have some rookie contracts on that OL while keeping it strong. Moton is very short term, Icky is now a totally unknown quantity, and it is very conceivable that we could be in the market for a new QB in the 2027 draft. In which case we could not draft a tackle over a QB in the 1st in 2027. So if you find the right one has fallen to you in 2026, it should be very seriously considered.

And we are still playing it.

Defense gets the draft scraps, and you have to get players from somewhere. When you use number one picks for offense 2022-2025, it will be from FA by necessity. Sorry, all due respect new LBs twice, literally made me laugh out loud. It seems like that position has been a black hole.

I guess. They say he is better pass than run. Also he was supposedly a better player in like, 2023. So find what he changed and change it back.