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Generally, especially older guys, it takes two years to be fully back. 3 years would take him through Scourton and Princely’s deals and if they earn 2nd contracts that is good timing. Also, watching g the Luke and JJ video I linked in the Luke thread Luke said the LB talent is there in this draft and he expects Morgan to get one. I am like, please. And make it a better pick than Wallace, Dan. Inauspicious debut there, on your linebacker drafting.

This whole thing is good but I time set it to start when they shift the subject to fits, schemes, etc. I am really big on continuity and they address that on the way out of this little conversation. It is a lot about the combine at first and Luke is just so good at communicating and smart about stuff, I would listen to him talk about most anything. I watched the whole thing.

Yeah the people that go there can’t seem to see it any other way. Everything else is the reason. Pretty sure there is more to bringing in Bevell than just helping Idzik learn to call plays. Maybe he can help to better fit an offense to this player and his skill set. Can only hope because we don’t scare any defense that is good. They don’t respect the pass they way we need them to. If you do happen to burn them once, they don’t adjust. As if it was a fluke. I think they think they are playing the odds.

I thought of that too but concluded that his issues would affect him at TE same as WR. If they aren’t solved? Fail at either spot. If they are resolved? He is a WR. But there could be some crossover in how they use him.

I am a little bit for a hybrid approach. BPA relative to positions of need, where if the difference is small between need and straight BPA, go for what you need. If the difference is too big to ignore, you have to accept what you are given and take straight up BPA.

I admit to having a lot of resentment over that. To the point that whether it would help or not didn’t even matter, I was against it. Enough was enough. That still lingers. Watching that defense in 2024 really pissed me off, knowing it was neglected in order to prop him up. After we had already put so much into him. I want nothing to do with another WR drafted in the 1st or 2nd round. Ditto TE. Especially TE. I understood McMillan last year way up at 8 and the defensive value not being there. And it worked out too, but that has to cap it. At 19 we shouldn’t run into a big value gap, taking a guy a couple of slots too early back at 19 won’t have that same impact. Except in some outlier scenario where a top ten guy is way down there. And that better be a LOT.

If only. I was thinking a little platform for him to stand on could help. We could drag it around the field and put him on it in the gun. Little mini drum riser.

Of course. I mean, thinking the playcalls or available plays are dictated in large part by the limitations of the QB is just plain ignorant! It has to be on the play caller’s lack of imagination. We have a QB that is standing on his tip toes trying to see the field, that couldn’t possibly be affecting anything, right? Anyhow I do agree that Canales was trying to do too much too fast, and was overwhelmed at times because of that. I will hope that we get a more diverse offense in the third year HC and QB are together, the same old passing charts we have seen most Mondays have to get more spread out. Maybe Bevell can help with that.

Yeah I agree with TE being a low priority. And WR should be as well. IOW no reason to invest another high pick in a pass catcher. What is the point when we have games where we only throw it 20 times? It isn’t like there is the volume of targets to justify that. We should try and find a complimentary speed guy without making a major investment. We could use one of those. If anything, I would argue any pass catching we do chase should be from the RB position. That, we could get a lot of use out of. At least going off the last three years.

When Bevell will came here I suspected maybe he would be that play caller. I did not at all expect him to be here as an assist to Idzik at being the play caller. Not sure what to think. Idzik is like the third generation of a football family so him being just some dumb ass assistent with a token OC title isn’t necessarily the case even though it seems an automatic assumption. It is possible he knows his stuff but is just inexperienced. But damn I didn’t see this coming until last week when I read someone like Person or another writer floated this scenario. And didn’t really take it as a foregone thing.

If Morgan allows that to happen. I still have hope a Tua like situation can be averted. I think he already sort of crippled the roster. At least hobbled it. Look at the resources denied to the defense for two solid years.

That’s a stretch. A winning record and not backing into the playoffs ranks much higher than what our outcome actually was. At least for me. And I am pretty sure I am one of those people you are referring to. The holes were poked by the team’s shortcomings, no one here had a hand in that. Noticing them, is just seeing things for what they are. I didn’t expect us to be in the playoffs or even sniff them last year. We over achieved just to do that but also we showed what we were not, down the stretch. Us doing so well against the Rams’ defense two times and so poorly against other teams told me Seattle was going to beat them in the playoffs. They had obvious weaknesses. Speaking of, glad we could finally exploit someone’s weaknesses in the passing game. Those two Rams games were really entertaining games, both the win and the loss. Watch what the Rams do in the offseason, bet they will address it.

Yeah I think the jobs are more consulting type of work, and probably have very little pressure to grind like a normal coach. I really was not inclined to like Caldwell because the offense was such a train wreck in his first year. I just always thought he may have had a lot of say in the way that offensive staff got put together. Which I saw as a fail, I especially did not get the Thomas Brown OC deal. Then add the backstabbing type of stuff rumored to be going on behind the scenes. It would be nice if we had some clarity on that but we are not gonna get it.

Exactly, we couldn’t beat a sorry last place team even once, with the division as the prize. I will give Bryce the Wild Card game but we went 1-3 and were only rescued by a very improbable tie breaker. If Atlanta had not got to 8-9 TB had the tie breaker on us too. That is obscured for a lot of people by the technicality of winning the division and a good effort in the Wild Card game. Personally I don’t think overlooking it helps people see an accurate picture of what the future might hold. IOW it wasn’t the flex a lot of people think it was.

It is really disheartening to see people take their QBs the last couple of years and have them do so much better than we have with ours. And a second rounder, in his second game, beats us on our field? And looks really good doing it. Then comes back and beats us a second time in a must win game for us. That was major salt in the wound.

We were swept by the Saints!

I don’t generally research these guys very hard anymore but I have seen some mocks where he would be long gone by 19. I think I saw people saying he was a very stout run defender, and would likely pick up a few sacks. No big numbers.

I mean, it is pretty bad for Icky and we may still not be able to fix it. But yeah we could have the same problems with worse timing and it would be a lot harder on us. Another thing it does, if we had extended him that 15 or 16 million dollar cap hit from his 5th year option would then be in play to be reduced and now it can’t be. Even though I saw someone suggest they extend him anyway, that would be very irresponsible unless he somehow comes back and plays well this season. It looks like we will have to deal with his big money hit this year, but yeah we have $ flexibility on another signing that we didn’t have before.

I shudder to imagine the level of excuse making that we will see if Bryce falls off behind a degraded OL. I don’t know that he would be taking any heat at all from a lot of people. And to the article, it is slightly less critical to draft OL when you went out and spent what they did on FA guards. But yes it is time to get a plan going for the draft that includes supplying the OL with fresh blood.

It sure does. I can only find two little almost silver linings. And from his perspective they aren’t silver linings. He could have waited until camp to blow the tendon, or the first week or two of the year. At least we have a chance to adapt with the timing of it. The extension that was planned for won’t happen and we can repurpose that money. Where if the injury happened in camp or in season, that was already signed and we are mega fuged. But it sure does throw a monkey wrench into whatever they had planned.

If you love doing it, not until the phone stops ringing.

Bozeman quit the league today so there is another C job open.

Someone knows he needs help. That is why Bevell. But this is the same deal as it has been for three years, with or without Canales. I put most of the stagnant offense on the inability of the passing offense to force the defense to respect it. I have an opinion on what was at the root of that. You can do chicken or egg, OC or QB, with the reason for not going downfield much but we need to have that be a threat at any given time. If it isn’t we are gonna have the same type of results we have been getting.

Yep and that is why teams have different boards. I would refine the lower valued position limitation mentioned here to the bottom quarter or third of the first round. There are a lot of really good players at these low value positions taken from right around where we pick and later. All positions I guess. For us, some highlights Gamble @ 28 Beason @ 25 Kelvin Benjamin and DJ Moore went late too but man I’d be fine with trading aback a little and getting a Beason level player.

Yeah. They do the same thing with OL, all OL positions are included and that is why Ravens can’t or won’t tag Linderbaum - 28mil for a C. And they could sign him but I think maybe his mindset for the last year is make them regret not having enough faith in him to pick up his 5th year. I am not sure we should pay a ILB 20 million either. I guess if there is a rookie next to him, you can rationalize it financially.