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Anytime your knee is trying to fold on you, gotta get some slack.

When I see them looking like deer in headlights, JC players vs pros, I can’t believe when I see them go out and have a decent game wham called on. And if they did it once, I am not expecting that the next time. Zavala has had some extreme swings where he looked up and coming at times last year but here we are again this year with the 2023 version

The up and down performance of these backups might be odd, except they’re backups. Zavala and Nijman have looked cut worthy more than once and other times have been pretty good. Who knows what to think….. I usually go with pessimism.

Agreed. It is similar to when we win and he has 120 yards and 1 TD. It wasn’t about him.

I haven’t seen it mentioned here but Cam about had a conniption over Rivers being called and his phone didn’t ring. There is video.

So yeah let’s blame a DC for failing to succeed after they pillaged your defense in every manner available to them to prop up their QB. For two hard years like scorched earth they tore that defense down and spent the proceeds on the offense. You know. Draft, cap, FA. Drained the defense. Whatever you think of Evero. Whoever the DC is. No one can compete with what they gave him. The whole organization should have been apologizing to him. I am no Evero homer but let’s be real.

Okay then. To me that means Russell Wilson was Coryell. Because I see the proposition completely in the Russell Wilson punt/pass put it up for grabs mold. Count on the receiver to catch it or knock it down. And the reason I thought that was the intent with Legette is the abysmal downfield game from 2023. As in, there was barely any. I look at it as if… the result of a deep attempt isn’t as important as the opponent understanding they have to defend it. So I was all for some 50/50s. Coryell, Walsh whoever. I do favor the Coryell approach personally but also very much value versatility, it doesn’t have to be strict. Just make the defense defend the whole field, however you do it. It has to include downfield throws.

Well, his job is to win and make Bryce better and other stuff too but he has to have a certain amount of buy in to make that work. If it is real or he has to talk himself into believing it, as coach and leader and in the context of the present time with the whole team needing to believe, who knows? You lie if you have to. I think you have have to separate that Canales from the detached offseason evaluation Canales. It is possible that you are correct and he is sold on Bryce. It is also possible that he isn’t, but cannot confess.

Good lord. If in that rambling you are saying we should all agree that the premise of the original post in this thread is valid? Keep dreaming. It was a strawman. False premise. Acting as if a ton of people were blaming Bryce for the loss. Which was not happening. To allow that stuff to go unchallenged, is worse.

There is a contingent that is total Bryce but they weathervane with the wind. When the good Bryce wind blows about once or twice a month we hear a lot from them. But they are always pro Bryce, they just don’t pipe up too much when he sucks. I can’t speak for them, as far as what they are looking at. In a second contingent, the collective mind is made up. He has had had basically three years worth of starts that might include a top tier outing or two, a few second tier outings, offset by about the same number of bottom tier outings which actually may have the edge there. The rest of his stuff is third tier and that is going to be the bulk of his starts. We want to move on. And we aren’t getting off of that hill until he puts us off of it. He has not. There is a third contingent that has no conviction and definitely weather vanes. Bryce is good. Bryce isn’t good. Depending on the latest game. They will buy into 7 on 7 success so that should tell you something.

I am talking Russell Wilson prayers. How many this year do you think? Whatever the number, fewer last year from my memory. Of course Bryce started off so well in 2024.

It definitely doesn’t work if you never do it. I have seen it about twice.

That is really what I thought they took him to do. At least a few.5050 balls downfield.

There is video somewhere of Tillis commenting on Wharton and knowing him in KC. Probably on the team site in one of those blueprint things or the like.

Neither.

It is possible to not blame him directly for the loss on Sunday, there were obviously some other big issues, and at the same time evaluate him as not cutting it overall. Ask me how I know.

Take Darnold and DJ Moore and All those draft picks and All that cap and draft capital dumped into the offense… Or Bryce?

Yeah I was crying about this earlier in the year when we got to 6 wins. Equal number to Wilks. We are still a QB away.

Well, looking at it now I would agree that he should cede some of his power and focus on being a leader of an entire NFL program and becoming a better strategist. And leave the details of implementing that to the people he has hired to work under him. But I am just some guy that gets his info 3rd hand and works off of incomplete info, using assumptions to draw conclusions.

True. Lots we don’t know, that would be helpful to know. For us anyway.

A dawg would want to. Woof.

It was probably a concession made that Canales has no influence over. If I were in his place I’d have agreed to whatever, to get my foot in the door. And as a fist time HC saddled with fixing or getting production out of Bryce Young, that is a double full time job to start with. He gets the team in the playoffs (I don’t see that happening) and he will get his leash extended. Little more power, a bigger voice. I didn’t expect poo this season so didn’t care about these little dramas, personally.

Saw that. Yeah. I mean all those defensive things with the third downs, giving them as many chances as they need via flags, it was pretty miserable.

They are going to condemn us to two more years of this poo. Hopeless folly I should say.

I said over the top. I guess that is a debatable bar. If I squint I can get back to him spatting with Jeff Garcia and insinuating he was gay lol. .