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You can play one through six degrees of separation with all of them if you want. Okay they have this in common or that in common. I don’t know how to assign meaning to it without evaluating each one. For example in Darnold’s case his arm could bail him out sometimes and it could get him in trouble sometimes. Bryce is not going to get bailed out by his arm. He very obviously, IMO, has trouble seeing the field and his margins with his arm strength are smaller or thinner than a guy like Darnold’s margin would be. By a lot. Or Stafford. Hell he threw a ball almost 80 yards when he was young and can still do 70. Bryce does not have that. If he succeeds it is because he is near perfect. I just don’t consider him as offering me any real advantages.

They should have given me a consulting fee I could have saved them those 6 years minus about ten minutes

He is on a two year deal. I wish they would just leave it at that. If he balls out Tepper will pay him and if he actually does that, well I don’t think he would want to leave. Because his balling out will be because they have put everything possible around him. It will all be right here.

Okay they will decide. Not arguing that. I simply brought up things outside of strictly unbiased evaluation that may influence the decision. IOW I think the deck is stacked in his favor and he will have to Phuck it up with a no doubt regression to spare us.

Well he is a flat out great analyst so I get why. If you listen to radio he sees things so fast, best we have ever had in that regard. But fug that they can’t have him. I want to keep him in the family here. Tepper you have the money.

Well, if they know Tepper wants to keep Bryce there is an an implied safety net there in case he fails. A possibility that he will be empathetic and •maybe• not fire them. If they go against that and bring in someone else and that fails they are in a much worse spot. IMO. And another factor may be that after all those years of instability and musical chairs pre Bryce there will likely be a feeling of security in knowing what they have. Kind of like settling just to keep from going through the process all over again. IOW I think he really needs to fug up bad to lose his job and change our course.

I felt like it was the OL, closely followed by QB. And today, in the present, yeah QB. He has limited us so much. I am looking forward to see what adjustments Bevell brings, and what Idzik does. Will they be able to get more out of him?

Canales said we don’t draft for depth, but we surely are doing that. Starters in waiting so to speak. I don’t mind that. They say for every rookie you start you take one loss, rule of thumb. I think we should get nice bumps from Lloyd and Phillips and am expecting to see a better Scourton. He was very young for a starter - he was 20 when we drafted him, turned 21 in late August. Not even finished growing. You have the secondary with a good year together, I thought there were some communication issues or blown assignments early last year that should be well worked out by the start of the schedule. I am not real worried about the defense. Hopefully they can get the young guys worked in by the home stretch and be a decent D. I definitely see some red flags with the offense. This line will likely take some time to gel. And more than I am thinking if they decide to go with Freeling. The running backs, we just don’t know what half of them are and they depend on that line too. And half that we do know, well Chuba obviously fell off last year and we don’t know if that was just from injury or an overall decline. We like to think injury and hope he is healthy this year, but who knows. If Idzik and Bevell add a lot of new stuff that could come with growing pains. And if we add in the annual ‘damn, I really suck at this’ start from Young, it could be a slow start for the offense.

If everything played out and that last thing happened, I probably just quit.

Lol @ Lisa Turtle.

Lol. As long as we are dreaming I would have liked to hear “well the two year option is about as far as we were willing to go, considering how strong the 2027 QB class is looking”. yeah I know it would never happen. But when they do have those internal discussions about the extension, I hope that draft class is part of what they discuss. Options.

Yeah. Aside from the questionable arm skill what I see is he lacks the thickness to absorb hits, he won’t hold up as a running QB. So not sure what his path will be.

Well they were long gone so haw can that be known? It was clear to me that we couldn’t stay put and get Rodriguez. And what were they to use to move up? Having Hunter and keeping the rest of the picks to use on these other guys was the right move in that scenario The only real pain free way to move up was to trade back in the first but when Freeling is sitting there that doesn’t look like as good of a plan

It would be nice if you are right.

I didn’t expect to see Freeling at 19. My plan was move back, take one of the guys that was still there and use the proceeds towards trading up in round two for Rodriguez. Freeling sitting there blew that all up. I knew there would be no trading up after that. Because don’t mess around, take the gift. And the ILB that I wanted in the second, over DL, that was me wanting something shiny. I think Hunter probably was the more responsible pick just like Freeling was.

A few people think it is because he would have showed him up.

At the same time some of his mistakes are what helped Georgia back in that game. He just doesn’t look that appetizing to me. And I am hungry as hell. But I am glad they are at least trying to upgrade from the likes of Jake Plummer.

He basically said he is here as a QB and then what I said already. It is in the E White video, the first of two posted here

The little bit I watched he does look a bit awkward. Also just an FYI because I have heard talk saying he will be used like Taysom Hill - Morgan says no he doesn’t see him as having that skill set.

Evans needs this year to see how he grew. Sanders had a sophomore slump. Both are in their evaluation windows and have shown promise. And personally, I do not believe our QB can utilize a stud TE to the point that major investment is warranted. So there is that.

I see him being better and most of that is a few downfield passes that were seemingly non existent. But it is what is around him that has dictated the trajectory more than the quarterbacking. He is game manager level and unable to dictate to defenses. And even if I am wrong and he is the reason we ‘upwarded’, we are bumping our heads on the ceiling and only making meager gains. If it is an incline it is awfully shallow degree wise. Like a finance graph that tracks your progress and hovers around the rate of inflation. Barely breaking even. Is that where you want your money? We make up these deadlines expectations and generally he does the minimum of what he needs to do to hang around. It does not encourage me to believe that when we get into a game against a good run d that we cannot break down with our run game, to believe that we can pivot to the air and successfully counter their strategy. But they run it back again. Of course I am gunshy of a repeat of the same thing we have watched for three years. oh, and yes his durability is his most impressive positive for my money. I fear the other shoe dropping on that and the contractual consequences that will follow. Last of all, too late to edit my mistake here but would like to acknowledge it: the last three years has done very little to convince me that I was not wrong in not wanting him. One too many “not”s.

This groundhog day movie happens because the QB has not removed doubt. And there are commitment decisions on the timeline that put this question squarely in the crosshairs. And they affect out future. For me personally the last three years has done very little to convince me that I was not wrong in not wanting him. We have a few nice games. Yet now we are committed for two more years.. which in reality is actually only one when looking at the long term future because of the extension question. Who the hell wouldn’t over discuss it when the dust has settled from FA and draft day and it is all there is to ponder? It is the main pondering event. And in the end, arguments in favor of him having shown enough to be the future are simply bereft of enough convincing evidence to stem the tide of negativity over his Short comings.

And it’s going to stay that way until late July at the earliest. So… almost three months.

And that makes you right.

I guess you could ta’k the perspective of, if he can make a roster that wins with Bryce Young at QB, he is a genius.