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People ran with that but we don’t know for a fact that was Carolina as far as I can tell. Notable to me is: the compensation mentioned, if correctly reported, would pretty much rule us out. What the source had the as the value of the offer, our corresponding picks only get us halfway there. Which, that wouldn’t fly and why even insult them? So too little info to sell me it was us. It’s possible that it was misreported and the offer included more, but if that is true I don’t think I would have liked it. Or thought it wise.

At this point it is a sideshow.

Varying degrees all around but it starts at the top. That is where the buck stops. It has been 8 years of stupid, long before Morgan came back. Or Tillis was hired. Made it to the top of stupid mountain in 2023. Stayed in stupid limbo for a while, now we are prepping to scale the next mountain. In this case, I like those guys’ roster building better than what we have had so I am okay with them as our current pawns in the game of Bryce.

If they all are elite, that is over half the defense. Just get competent in the other 5 slots and sit back and enjoy. Scott, I know… but I worry about Wallace being a liability maybe most of all. And again, the learning curve in regards to everyone knowing their job and where they need to be. And trusting that your teammates are reliable on that count. To me, more than the talent level, the question is how fast can they all mesh as a team? I wouldn’t be surprised if it took a few weeks to tighten it all up.

Being in love with a shitty person can really suck. Don’t ask how I know that.

Good thing they don’t live in NC, they could get sued like Smitty. And I think here we are again at the one of the worst things a woman can do to a man, lie to him about paternity and put him in that kind of position. And the kid too.

I think he is doing fine all by himself. Not that I think Kraft is particularly bothered by it, morally, but he might be if the heat keeps coming.

It isn’t going away is it? I can see him losing respect in that locker room with certain players too. Not for his coaching but there is a moral high ground and he is looking up at it. Nobody’s perfect and he wouldn’t be the first imperfect dude undone by lusting after a crazy female.

Beyond is accurate because we are already stupid.

Which is why I am still sort of concerned about the RB room and was definitely very concerned about the OL. Bryce ain’t gonna do squat unless we can run effectively. He is impotent otherwise.

I have that sense, and have stayed out of that. Until this comment - I mean, all you have to do is look at the re-naming of the draft sub forum.

I like the silver hats but 100% on your other two.

Also, if he is lining up as right edge rusher, at least we might have a counter. I saw a stat while looking to see where they might play him that no one with arms shorter than 31 inches has recorded a sack in their first three years. Talk about obscure stats…. here is the exact quote, I left something out: Since 2021, no player with sub-31” arms has even recorded a sack in his first three seasons. That’s alarming to read, and it bears remembering, but if there’s any player primed to surmount those odds, it’s Bain. link https://www.bucsnation.com/tampa-bay-buccaneers-draft/67403/what-rueben-bain-jr-does-for-the-tampa-bay-buccaneers

Maybe that rumored failed trade up with Baltimore was us. Who knows? But I don’t think so and also hope not. We would have had to jump TB and teams have to be willing to move. Unless you want to get into an offer they can’t refuse territory like we did in 2023. I just think, and always did, that the minute Icky went down to that particular injury our course was set, like it or not. And I wasn’t crazy about it but sometimes inconvenient things happen and require sacrifice. No new shiny toys for us, have to keep the lights on.

I mean I agree about diminished Cam probably still being viable. Even though it gave a preview of how teams would defend the pass against a limited QB. There was an issue with the upcoming contract he was due to get and his expectations vs the new reality of his physical status - that people tend to overlook when looking back on it It had an effect on things I believe But I do have to ask… what about Tepper’s second major move? fuging clueless I mean I would take even an injured Cam over Bryce all day long.

And not see him running free. Because has been free a lot more than he gets credit for. Now what XL does with that when he does see the ball, is on him.

We were in no position to mortgage our near term future to block a team from a player that high in the draft order. This is like, worrying about the things you can’t control.

And two of them clearly have us beat at QB.

Yeah it will truly be such a shame and a waste to build a great roster only to leave the likes of Bryce Young behind the wheel. Like I said before it will amount to putting fancy wheels ion a Vega. Or a go kart. Or to tailor this to Tepper, ketchup on a great steak.

Yeah a lot of ‘progress’ isn’t really better at all but sometimes it actually does improve things. The main advantage of living in a metro area left today, sports fan wise, is you can actually go to the games in person if you want.

Ideally every player would win the job in a fair competition. Beat out the guy in front of you. If you can. If XL is in front of a draft pick, the draft pick needs to beat him out. Whoever is in front of him. Should be the way of the world. Aside from that if they do want to trade XL they should give him a chance to rehabilitate his rep and up his value. Showcase. But then if he proves he is worth something you want to trade him away? I do no t think we would save all his guaranteed money, for one. Not sure though. And finally, today I posted about Bryce throwing it away on 4th down. It got me thinking of the mental stuff with XL. What Bryce did was just about as bad as XL’s mental lapses in terms of being ignorant. I bet there are some Bryce supporting XL haters here, that one is for you.

And don’t worry about Bryce he will be great… Peyton Manning had a horrible rookie year too

Nothing wrong with it at all until you start telling others they are bad fans or not fans. But you are the good fan because you never say negative stuff about the team. I did many years of that type of uninformed fanning because there really was no info and coverage like there is with the internet. I mean, I used to go to the store and get Street and Smith’s annual football issue. That was about the extent of what you could get if you didn’t live in a big city with sportswriters covering and reporting. There was no video to look at or replay the games and if you didn’t live in the market you could only rarely see your football team play. TI have fanned since being a kid in the early 1960s, and as late as 1995 - ‘97 I lived in Atlanta and good luck getting more than 3 or 4 games a year on TV. No radio either. No print coverage outside of an AP recap and box unless they played Atlanta. People today that have always had the network connection don’t know. I wasn’t very educated about the Panthers until I finally got internet.

Train them that hearing that keep pounding drum signals feeding time. And throw some meat it in the cage after every score.

Phillips is definitely a risk. But if he can stay healthy….