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No saying he mostly sucks is saying that he doesn’t suck the minority of the time. Like if he took 17 tests and had a couple of really good showings and a handful of pretty good scores sprinkled in among the typical sub par results. Like a golfer who went out and shot an 89. There will be some real nice shots sprinkled in there but at the end of the day it is still 89.

That is a great effort to document it. I had forgotten about the 5th year part up front. It was a great listen so if people have time you should maybe do that.

I am going to suggest maybe we make a team produced video thread and sticky it. They are not doing irrelevant fluff right now, other than introducing g the draft picks. These podcasts with Luke and JJ have become good. The ones the team did with the scouts, good stuff for a fan. In particular here we have one of the most cerebral LBs ever to play giving opinion after opinion on the guys we drafted, and all kinds of stuff. And I have preached continuity the last couple of years regarding Dan and Canales, just for its own sake. Luke speaks on that here. I think we could value it a little more than we do. Small talk which you also might enjoy, was skipped; I linked to the beginning of the post draft talk.

If you think about.. if you really draft BPA you going to have situations where they come in behind someone. They don’t All need to start day one. You are probably better off letting it happen at their pace, after all the saying a loss for each rookie you start. The biggest thing is take a good player. Easier said than done, I get it, and an oversimplification… probably. But it is the name of the game.

I bet he knew before that. I did and I am a total amateur. Looking at his size, then his pro day…. All the way out.

Oh man, I just realized how beautiful it would be to let the Falcons pay for our QB while we beat them.

I can’t imagine him moving from 22-25 range to top ten. I would call that miraculously better.

Pewter Report was the big Bucs spot I use to look at. I think it is still running.

Cool. I used to like to look at their board every so often. Still look at Saints Report a couple of times a year.

I think you are right about that.

That deal with the ‘must watch film’ clause was all I needed to see. He is an athletic little fuger though, with a cannon.

Saw him mocked to us a couple of times but I didn’t take it seriously.

I don’t think people are saying that picking up the option is a call for the pitchforks. We would have had to do things differently a couple of years back to make declining the option a valid move. We didn’t and here we are. People largely accept that. The pattern it adheres to, reinforces the nausea we feel when the idea of an extension, and at top of the market no less, comes up. One that he hasn’t shown he deserves. Same as he did not deserve to be drafted 1.1. Look at Pavia and what really is the difference? Bryce is a nice guy and Pavia is an asshole lol. They are both no margin for error non day one talents. One went undrafted. Probably should have been drafted day three anyway. The other was way over drafted.

Of course I don’t know either but the value was not even close. I am not sure Dan would risk insulting another GM with a 50 cents on the dollar offer. Although, the way that guy did business on the Crosby deal, I don’t know if I would much want to deal with him. I thought about looking at the draft order and trying to figure out who it may have been, if not us. Turns out I don’t care that much

Your opinion is noted. As long as we have to endure sub par play that projects to a dim future at the position, people have every right to express their dissatisfaction. Maybe we could resurrect that thread where no one was allowed to say anything negative about Bryce for you, if you are that bothered by it.

Who is over excited? A lot of people think we need better than what he has given us. We have watched him for two years, his alleged improvement notwithstanding, and he has been very unremarkable. But we have little choice but to hope he gets it - he will get his year three opportunity and we’ll see

Under Reich with Geno throwing to him. Oh yeah, I’ll be betting on that.

This illustrates a big difference between the two factions. The Bryce critics talk about Bryce, but the stans talk about the Bryce critics.

There is a lot to that. A lot. Another factor is he has two full years in the same system and is more comfortable in it. You can see that. And that is his (maybe his only) advantage over most competition he might face.Young players in a new system, he is ahead of them.

And by the same token you have had three years to come to terms with the fact that he mostly sucks but apparently you have been unable to.

He is icing his knees in-game. I wish I had marked where I saw that yesterday but one of the players was telliing the story. Thinking Moton was probably out for the day because he is on the bench with ice all around one knee, But he came back in. He is playing through a lot of pain apparently but as was referenced up thread it is something he can play with if he can deal with the pain.

Yeah okay. We as an organization have been more patient with him than many. And there has been a small parade of guys drafted since he was, also to bad teams, that have passed him. Some have lapped him. As a fan I am out of patience but he gets this year it is out of my hands always has been. I just hope the bar is higher than it has been for him. FWIW, XL dropped two passes last year. He did do some other bad stuff, just saying.

I mean, can you imagine if we had kept Darnold, who would have been cheap, and added to the roster the way we have done since Bryce? Fitterer would still be here. Maybe Reich. It wouldn’t be what we have now bringing in the talent. But just put Darnold and DJ and all those draft picks with Canales and Morgan and daydream about it. All those picks. We still could spend big in FA. Sheeit.

I really liked some of his answers. I hope he has a great year. Maybe we can keep paying him with a rookie contract at LT.

I like the guy we just signed. Ga Tech. Just keep taking shots. I think there may be some interesting guys under contract this year that may be out there next year. I guess I just want us to do like I wish we had done instead of drafting Bryce. Well, him particularly but the trade was ill advised to start with. Horrible. Then they made it even worse. Let’s don’t get so desperate we do that again.