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There’s no way we are gonna know, if they address it it will be portrayed as a mutual decision, most likely. Whether it was 80-20 ‘mutual’ or 50-50 mutual. One thing I believe is encouraging is they know they have to do better and probably have a good enough rapport where this can be candidly discussed. I doubt this was forced on Canales. Yeah it could have been I just don’t think it was 100-0

As far as age, I doubt the Saints regret taking Shough, Different position I know, but if he is ready to step in? I expected not to like Person’s choices but I am good with this. At least, without looking to see who he passed on to take these guys. I can say, the last thing I want to see in the 1st or 2nd round is a WR or TE.

Alignment between the key people is always what you strive to have. The Seahawks fans were no doubt butt hurt over that SB goal line play. You know yourself we have fans that one mistake like that totally defines all future prospects with a player or coach. Every base has them. I will just cite the recent experience in Miami as a positive. He worked closely with a leading offensive mind, and a fuging project QB like we have here.

I agree. Good maneuvering by Dan to have it addressed this way. There may be a way to get Canales to be better at what he is weak on just with some competent help. If not, plan B is ready to hit the ground running.

I don’t see it that way. There is common ground from Seattle with Morgan, I think, and Canales and probably Idzik too - without looking it up. Canales worked for Bevell, having a guy there that has done your same job can really be a good thing. As that guy knows the job and has a perspective that someone like Idzik has yet to acquire. I put it this way, if you have done the same job you can be a better employee or assistent to the guy in it now. It is a personal anecdotal conclusion as I was an employee, and then a boss for pretty good while and when that ended and I was an employee again elsewhere, I was much better at it than I had been in my earlier employee days. The only way it could be bad on its face, to me, is if Bevell is out to steal the HC job, to undermine. Which I can’t assume is true. I do feel like Caldwell is likely pretty worthless. Capers slightly less so because he was brought in to help Evero who is still here. Not sure who Caldwell was brought in to mentor. It wasn’t Canales. I doubt we need either.

He also has interim HC experience with two teams. If it gets to that kind of place. I think it is a good move. Could be really good. We will see but I totally get it, personally. It doesn’t mess the cap at all, what do we care if the coaching payrolls gets bigger? Which as far as that goes, whatever offsets were in Reich’s deal allow you to fold Bevell’s cost into what is deducted because of what he makes with the Jets. Probably a wash, at worst. If we were even concerned about that

Agreed. They are fun if you are doing the mock. There was a site that would run a draft for you, and allow you to propose trades and I think would generate trade proposals as well. It was a blast to run a few of those. Especially with the trades- I was stockpiling so many picks, lol.

I would say he was probably valuable in the film room, or showing the young guys what you can pick up from it. But at the same time saw him as a training wheel that needed to be taken off.

You know it is possible for your two things to be true, and also for Bryce not helping the situation being true as well. XL was open a lot, not seen or at least targeted, and there were some poorly placed balls in the mix. I don’t see a soul defending or denying XL’s mental lapses which in a broad sense can include just about every mistake he made. The brain dead penalties and sideline stuff, right along with his drops. He failed the test in 2025. He was demoted with good reason. I don’t see anyone arguing against that.

I guess he is a guy who was okay calling the heave it up for grabs strategy, where Wilson’s ducks flew high and free in the fall afternoon air. If XL stays, that could be a way to use him with this QB. Or the other guys could do the same…. but just for me, that is how I expected them to use XL when he was drafted.

I don’t know how you know, it could be both Canales and Morgan. But it speaks well of Dan I think, I smell some awareness that there is an issue around Canales’ wearing all these hats. Unless Canales went to him and did the mea culpa, I would think Dan had a candid discussion with Dave and Dave, to his credit, saw the issue too. Was it, “hey Bevell is out there on the vine right now for the taking, can he help us?”, or was it “we both agree we need help in this department, who could we get?”?

What’s that saying? Wish in one hand and spit in another, see which one fills up faster? I bet there are a lot of us that wish we would seriously look at that option. And others But when you get into 50mil contract talk that dims my enthusiasm for that particular one. That would be taking a real expensive shot in the dark.

Yes I was. And I have clearly said I expect them to be tough on him. I couldn’t remember the exempt list, they put Hardy on that for quite some time if I recall. Well yeah I have said the NFL was tougher than the legal system historically and I only offered it up as a possible argument his side could use. I can’t think of anything else they could try. (I wasn’t advocating for him). Heck I said way back this is worse than what Hardy did, not defending Hardy this is just that poo on steroids.

Been more than one example of that too. And the calls that went in for those last 4 plays… that happened once before last year too. I want to say one of those Saints games but it might have been early on with the comeback falling short vs Az. I could swear we have seen that before. You know, thinking about it, and where Canales is in his development, the best thing might be to get a proven guy upstairs and have him call the plays while Canales focuses of getting the other parts of his job working right and being more comfortable where some things become second nature. If we had a good couple of year run like that the OC could probably leave for a promotion and Canales might be in a better position to handle it. I am 50/50 on Canales, maybe 60/40. It seems to me that you lose something not seeing the field as well as you do from upstairs. And you can’t HC from upstairs.

Also, one argument Pearce’s side could make, don't know if would fly, is if the league suspends him before he has his day in court, they would be negatively impacting his ability to hire the best defense attorneys he could hire. (Loss of income) And that a suspension should only be implemented after a guilty verdict or plea. I don’t think that will work.

The league has been very tough on those issues, when their hand has been forced. They tried to sweep Ray Rice under the carpet at first. But even pansy ass Goodell has been tougher than the US legal system on them. He doesn’t really have the presumption of innocence and the constitutional protections to adhere to, nor does he have to contend with juries. And insane, unethical (imo) attorneys. Who don’t seem to be very consistent, let me put it that way. They are easily swayed by dog and pony shows and celebrity lately. I could be surprised but I expect the guy to have a better shot with the justice system than with the league. Better a Falcon in that seat than a Panther, for sure. Blank got hosed by Fontenot and to maybe a lesser degree, Morris. There were some truly boneheaded decisions made by that regime. (bless their hearts).

Yeah there is a lot of slack that if tightened up would possibly get us up a level. Just getting us out of suffering from the obvious oversights, could make a game or difference in the end.

I am not all knowing for sure but I don’t see how Idzik advances professionally without being a legit OC and handling the entirety of the job description. Which he lacks to this point. And can’t get with Bevell in the mix, I don’t believe. He may have to look elsewhere for a path to advancement.

Wise move: yeah. And unexpected. It was hard to see how to navigate the situation to where If they feel like Canales should be relieved of the play calling burden they have a legit person to give it to. Because to this point, they didn’t. And they did it without firing Idzik. Who is from a football family background and probably has potential - he just isn’t there yet for the play calling trust. Both the HC and the OC can lean on this man, who has been an interim HC twice himself and a SB OC. It checks a lot of boxes on the surface. And another set of qualified eyes, with an unbiased outside perspective, evaluating the QB situation seems like a good thing as well.

Good lord I have tried to say okay we’ll see but that apparently isn’t good enough for you. I am done with you on this. They have to defend the indefensible. See what they do. They only so many ways I can parse what these attorneys do in these modern times we are in. And if you can’t see it, I can’t see it for you.

Well, they now have a person they could credibly reassign play calling to, if it becomes an issue that rises to the level where that type of move is being called for. He is the guy that called the Malcom Butler pass play at the goal line in the SB. Which will live in infamy.

I am wrong if the attorneys don’t go there. We’ll see.

Wow. That’s kind of out of nowhere for me. Seattle connection I guess.

The 2015 team was good enough that people could know what was coming and we would still be successful. It was so much fun to watch. I don’t remember if Cam’s “oh you been watching film? Well watch this” comment is from that season but it should have been. Best thing he ever said too. That I heard. I think it was simple. We were the better team on the field all season and on paper for that Super Bowl. But we went in overconfident, got smacked in the mouth, and didn’t respond for whatever reason, like we needed to. Add some unfavorable calls, put it in the books.

He could probably still be playing. Or maybe just retired. Definitely lost years off his career, went out at a super high level of play, I saw the team interview with him about the HOF today and he said he still misses it. He caught a really bad break.