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As they should be. This trade signals an uncertain and likely painful rebuild ahead of them. When you have an elite QB you always have a chance so there's hope that a couple key moves or a banger draft class can get you right back in the mix but that train left the building today. Now they have to find another QB just to get back to that place.

My point is that you perfectly described Rodgers's experience behind Favre. The difference is that the Packers were very confident that Rodgers would be a very successful successor to Favre and they were right. This contract screams that they're very confident that Love would not be a successful successor to Rodgers.

I don't see it effecting much. Wilson was never coming here and it seemed like Denver was hell-bent on landing either Rodgers or Wilson. Rodgers also wasn't coming here.

Wait, are we talking about Love or Aaron Rodgers?

The Packers didn't give an aging Rodgers the highest cap hits of all time because Love was showing promise. That deal they gave Rodgers screams that Love is hopeless.

I didn't expect him to get traded but I did expect the Broncos to be very aggressive pursuing a legit vet QB.

He's a league minimum type of player. He's fighting for the #3 TE spot on decent rosters.

They're not trading their best player for picks they'll probably never get to make.

This. I agree with them that there will probably be at least one quality QB in this class but their odds of identifying and choosing that QB is worse than Hurney's odds in the 2nd round.

Riddle me this... What is the advantage for a player with a contract with big guarantees with lots of dead money to play through injuries on a bad team? Now the same question for the team. This isn't about conspiracy theories. It's about business sense. When you have a player you've made a big investment in it makes no sense to have that guy playing through injuries risking further more serious injury on a team that isn't contending. You're already upside down on the contract. The smart move is to protect your investment. Same for the player. You're not playing for a contract. You've got your contract. You're not playing for glory and a ring, the team is going nowhere. It's one of those situations where the smart play for both parties is to just sit it out for next year though neither party can come out and publicly admit it.

I told y'all that Rhule was going to leave us gutted both in draft capital and cap space. This is part of that process.

Note: Salyer listed as an OT, but I'm drafting as an OG.

Yeah, that's the message I'd be putting out too. You're rarely if ever going to have a player admitting to a "business decision" on whether he plays or not. Nor a team for that matter but we've all watched as IR lists balloon as teams get mathematically eliminated. Coincidence? I think not.

Exactly. So why risk further injury? He has his bag. You see this routinely in the NFL. The player has no incentive to play through injury and the team has a big investment to protect. Unless you're contending it makes no sense for those guys to play through injuries. Stop reacting and think.

I'm suggesting he isn't playing at anything less than 100% and why would he? The team sucks. It's not in his best interest or the team's with their financial commitment for him to be playing banged up even if he gets medical clearance. You're just being hyper-emotional, per usual.

Wouldn't surprise me if good old dad hasn't been in his son's ear reminding him that his former teammate is a great example of why you have to look out for yourself and not the team (especially when the team is ass) with injury management. The team won't be there for you if you gamble and lose because they're always going to do what they perceive as best for them.

Find me another top player who has missed as much time over such a relatively short period with no major injuries (torn ligaments, broken major bones, QB with throwing arm injuries, etc). CMC has missed a ton of time with relatively run of the mill minor injuries. It just doesn't add up.

That's the message I'd want put out there too. But the specific injuries and the time missed just don't add up.

Most athletes don't have fathers who played a decade plus in the NFL having a much different perception of football as business than the average player.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_sense

Duke started out tight from the nerves. They tightened up again when Carolina took the lead late. K just never recognized it. He left them hung out there to dry. He also never adjusted to UNC changing the way they played Banchero. They had no answer for him isolating early on but once they softened to avoid giving up the drive and to give up the shot Banchero proved unable to score when he couldn't get to the rim. Forcing him to settle for pull ups led to a lot of missed shots and ultimately Carolina rebounds. The most beautiful thing about that loss for duke is that it was a really poor night of coaching for K.

He would've 100% played in more games over the past two seasons had we been contending. Whether that was CMC's call or someone else's I don't know.

If your "franchise player" is a RB in today's NFL then your team sucks. The Titans are the high water mark of how far a RB led team can go and they still have a pretty decent QB and a great D.

I don't think he's worth that but I think he's worth more than we should pay.

I'm of the opinion that a lot of the time CMC has missed over the past two seasons with non-serious injuries are likely of the "I ain't wearing out the tread on these tires for this bullshit" variety. Don't be surprised if he suddenly gets a lot more durable if he's playing for a playoff contender.