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Sure he does. It's like Tepper is mad at Cam because he hasn't been able to turn the page and find success on the field after Cam. He really thought he was just going to come in and put his stamp all over the organization and dominate the league and everyone would just forget about the guy that Panthersdom revolved around prior. Well... how's that workin' out for ya big dog?

Projecting talent to the next level is always dicey, even more so at QB. And now with the rookie wage scale we're seeing more highly drafted QBs because the downside is so much lower. You're no longer having to pay top picks like future HOFs so go ahead and swing big. The risk/reward structure favors the bold move. Just don't trade a poo ton of draft capital to draft a guy with none of the physical traits.

Imagine posting on a forum to mock people for posting on a forum. Whether you realize it or not you just played yourself. LOL Guess what? We've heard people like you lecture people with opinions about how *insert former Panthers front office or coach moron* knows best and we're all just idiots. This forum exists to discuss Panthers football and that includes *GASP* sharing opinions that may be contrary to what the Panthers end up doing. If you just want a circle jerk of an echo chamber reassuring you that everything the Panthers do is brilliant despite the abysmal record on the field, I think they made a Discord group for that.

As a backup? Bryce. As a starter? Gun.

He's not throwing many turnover worthy balls now. That in and of itself is a big improvement. He's also showing more ability to fit balls into coverage within twenty yards of the LOS. He's definitely improved he just doesn't have the physical talent to be a starter. I'm honestly not sure he has much higher ceiling than what he's currently showing.

Yep, I have no problem with people say that he has improved. It's just this attempted narrative that he's "turned the corner" and is looking like a legit starter that blows my mind. He has improved from someone who looked like he didn't belong on an NFL roster to looking like a guy who might be able to carve out a career as a backup. He's doing a good job of doing what he can on an NFL field it's just that his physical limitations are very obvious. I don't blame Bryce for that. Those limitations were obvious on his college tape too. Just like Caleb William's flaws were - he holds the ball forever, takes a lot of bad sacks, and he's a diva. It was all there to be seen.

Stop lying to yourself. For the record, that looks like 3/11 with 3 INTs on attempts 20+ yards. He has literally thrown as many balls to the opponent as he has his own team when throwing 20+ yards. 1 attempt 30+ yards. If you meant only since he came back from his benching, he's 2/5 with an INT when throwing over 20 yards. He threw one ball over 20 yards last week and to his credit he completed it. It was 21 yards. The guy is not throwing the ball down the field.

The comfort I take from this is that we've definitely turned the page on Bryce Young. Good.

Tepper strikes me as the type that the more people ask for something and the louder they get the less likely he is to do it.

The players weren't but from a play calling perspective what they were doing just made no damn sense at all. Could the staff just be that dumb? Yeah, absolutely.

Very possible. I think he's basically already fired and he probably knows it. I mean, there's no salary cap on coaches. Who's to say a team can't go to a coach and say, "Listen, we're going a different direction after this year. We can fire you now or how about $5M to out your thumb on the scale in a non-obvious way and get us better draft position? And yeah, there will be an iron clad NDA you're going to sign." I'm not saying that it happens but I'm honestly not aware of anything that would prevent it from happening. And honestly in an industry with only 32 tightly linked potential employers in a very small community of professionals it's not like people are going to super eager to burn bridges giving up the dirt anyway. NFL blacklisting is real. Not in a coordinated way but just in the fact that all 32 employees are very similarly motivated type of way. You don't have to have coordination for all 32 teams to arrive at the same conclusion on potential employees.

You have to do it from a coaching perspective. Honestly, it looked like the Giants were doing it this past Sunday. That did not look like a team trying to give itself the best opportunity to win. I mean, you're running the ball at will and you still let your terrible QB throw it 37 times? That doesn't make any logical sense if you're actually trying to win. We were in the same situation on the other side but we only let threw it 25 times. I don't think NFL teams go out there and deliberately throw games. But you can make decisions throughout the course of the game to tip the scales toward your desired outcome without being blatantly obvious about it.

We don't have to "tank". We suck. We have barely beaten two other teams in recent weeks who also suck. If we played the Saints and Giants 10 times we'd probably go roughly .500 in those games. We just happened to win those coin flips. We aren't beating any other teams who aren't headed for top 5 picks in April. #1 is looking like a long shot at the moment but top 5 is well within reach.

I could see them making a push for him. I still think the most likely future is as Shedeur and Hunter's agent or as their marketing person. He would actually be really good at the latter. He could be a beast in the world of sports marketing.

I just don't pay attention to any of it. Don't follow them on social media. Radio? WTF is that? People still listen to that ancient technology? Sports podcasts? That's just the same thing as those awful ESPN shows. Just tune it out. I'm terribly disconnected from the sports world these days other than watching the actual game and you know what? It's fuging awesome. LOL

Have you not been paying attention? Those screamo shows have been doing this poo forever. Stop watching that poo, man.

I was very surprised to see in that article that evidently UGA wasn't even in the recruiting picture.

My good buddy grew up in State College and is a big PSU fan. We were in college at the same time as Lavar and I'd end up watching quite a few Penn State games with him. He was big on Courtney Brown. I was watching to watch him at DE but it was this LB who was standing out to me. I kept telling him that Brown was alright but Lavar Arrington was the real player on that D.

Not at all. I'm fluent in all forms of southern drawl.

I was doing some stuff through Fox Sports. I interviewed quite a few players and draft prospects. TD and Hoover were probably the two biggest.

I was one of the first people to interview TD in a long form format after he was drafted. I think I still have the audio of that kicking around here somewhere. I'll try to dig it up this weekend.

If there's one thing that feels like a safe bet it's David Tepper falling for something really dumb when it comes to football. He may be a brilliant hedge fund manager (which feels like a grift to be honest seeing that his hedge fund basically mirrored the S&P 500's performance) but the guy is a certified moron when it comes to football.

Tell the Commanders that.

I hope all the Panthers fans who bitched about Cam have enjoyed the post-Cam Panthers.