JawnyBlaze

No one says Cam was as great as Brees and Brady. He was certainly elite, and did more with less than almost anyone (especially with the trash coaching), but he wasn’t a sure fire first round lock HoF and top 10 all time QB like those two were. I dunno why you say Cam being less than the other two means Rivera is better than the other two. That logic doesn’t add up. Rivera: 0 rings, Payton: 1 ring with far less talent on the defense than Rivera had and not a ton on offense, Belichick: many rings with less talent than Rivera had on defense and not a ton on offense.

He’s a winner, a great offensive mind and a really good coach. Yea he’s a douchebag, but I’d rather have a “douchebag” that sticks by his players than a “nice guy” like Rivera who throws his players under the bus and doesn’t have their back. My only sticking point is having to give up a first for him. That’s a hard pass for me, if the choice is Ben Johnson and Stroud (using next year’s first to move up for him) or Payton and Richardson at #9, I’m taking the former.

Oh I musta misread. Thought it was ludicrous they were interviewing him for HC. Him going to be their DC would be good for us too heh

I feel like since Chark isn’t a big name he should be reasonable. Definitely wouldn’t break the bank for him. He’d be competing with TMJ for that #2 spot, might not win it with the way Marshall flashed this year. Year three with a new offensive scheme and QB could be huge for him.

Trading up this high will include next year’s first almost guaranteed. Hopefully it wouldn’t take much else. I’m definitely down for this trade scenario, we would be lucky to move up for Stroud for so cheap. If we pick the right HC then next year’s first should be pretty low because the division is ours for the taking and we will make the playoffs with a good coach. TB is done, window slammed shut, Falcons are trash (they’re interviewing Holcomb for HC?!), Saints have a good defense but they’re going nowhere without a new HC and QB and they’re probably not getting that this year, plus most of their good players are getting up in age. Our team is young and on the rise.

Ben Johnson Darnold to start, rookie QB in after the bye week (or earlier if we get a late bye week) Trade up for Stroud. If a trade up is unreasonable or undoable, I’d be fine with Levis, Richardson or Quentin Johnston or a good DE (haven’t researched them yet). Bozeman is a must, Foreman would be great, if Chark is a FA he’d be great. I’ve liked him since that year’s draft season.

Yea the myth that guys only bring in their buddies and guys they’ve worked with gets regurgitated here every time we’re in the market for a coach. When a coach does that (Rivera with everyone he hired, Rhule with Snow) it rarely works out.

Nah. It was obvious what kind of coach he was before that game. Not the kind I want, regardless of that game or any playoff games. Of course, if he had gone on to win the Super Bowl I’d understand there’s no way we could get rid of him after that and I’d be grateful, but I’d be dreading the next few years of scaredy conservative coaching.

I’m guessing it means we’re getting one of the offense guys to be our HC and we’re interviewing top DC candidates so that both sides of the ball are well handled. Might even mean we already have a handshake deal with the new HC and he’ll review the DC interviews to choose which one he wants

Interesting. I don’t have a preference between “Charlotte” or “Carolina”, and I’m from pretty far from Charlotte: Sampson County. I had never even been to a game before 2010 when I was home on leave and able to finally make the trip to Charlotte. When I lived in NC up to 01 I was too young and/or broke to make the trip. Before the Panthers I was a Cowboys fan, since there was no regional option. Even if there had been a South Carolina team I doubt I would have chosen them. SC is no different from Virginia, just a neighbor.

Never Brady and especially never this Bucs team. I’ll be rooting for the cowboys to fail a little less.

Maybe if they moved. Plenty of things could make me less invested and not watch every single game. I was almost there last year and the beginning of this year until Rhule was fired. Even if we make the worst move possible and retain the current staff I would probably stay at least a little invested. But if the team moved, there would be temptation to cut ties (and I’m not even in the Carolinas myself anymore. Haven’t been since the Panthers were 6 years old heh)

Fox, Capers, Rivera. Man that’s sad.

Not even “not a stacked roster”, a barren roster. The have Saquon and pretty much nothing else. Marvelous coaching job

Hayell no. Not a second or a third or a fourth or a fifth or a sixth. Maaaaaybe a seventh.

Probably the same people talking poo about Burns all year.

Comparing the decision on Rhule vs the lack of decision at the same point on Rivera: Rivera only had 3 more wins through 2.25 seasons. With Cam, Smitty, Olsen, Luke, and a much better roster overall.

Give Tepper time. He’s still a young owner. How many bad HCs did we suffer under Richardson? The only good one imo was Fox, for a few years. Tepper has only hired one.

Yea I was one of them. Rivera took his balls out of his ass for the rest of that year and most of us quietened down, then the next year went back to his loser ways. Then in 15 he changed again, letting Cam control the offense more, then in 16 went back to his loser ways again permanently.

How is it odd? Both owners were presented with similar scenarios, bad years one and two, year three starts bad. The current owner handled it correctly, the last owner held onto the guy for another six and a half years, wasting some of the best players the team ever had, by far the best QB and best shot at winning the SB

No, I wanted him gone after 1-4, similar to Rhule. If Rivera had been fired after the bad start in year three (like Rhule was) sure that year might have ended up worse than the 12-4 it finished but we likely would have won a Super Bowl or two in the next few years. Definitely would have been better than three winning records in nine years.

After starting 0-3 or something like that. That team should have been winning Super Bowls. With another coaching staff it would have.

He’s already proven to be a better owner than Richardson by getting rid of Rhule in year 3. If Richardson had gotten rid of Rivera in year 3 like many of us were screaming for we might have a SB trophy in the case, with all that talent those teams had. At least Tepper isn’t afraid to make moves, I much prefer that to holding onto Hurney, Rivera, etc way way too long.

A lotta faith being put in this Kunkle fella. It’s “throw poo at the wall and see what sticks” season in sports journalism.

There’s no one I wish more on that franchise than Mike Shula.