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Because Orlov and Chatty are not a good pair and Orlov is getting a lot more money than Chatty. I can only guess that RBA is still waiting for Orlov to figure it out.

And Koochie lets us know early how this is gonna go.

On TNT tonight. Gotta listen to the Philly lovers... uh...

Who isn't?

Rags were on the road a lot the first couple weeks of the season as well. Not like the Canes, who went 11 out of 15 of their first games on the road, but the rags fared much better on the road than the Canes. It'll all come together in the end. No worries.... except for the goalies.

Watched the replay this morning. I was wrong with my assessment, not giving enough credit to RBA for ripping the team's ass after the Florida loss. That being said, a solid effort from everyone who suited up last night. I still have my reservations about Kochetkov- he'll just as easily have a boner game as he will stand on his head like he did last night. Not comfortable with him any time he's in net, not knowing which Kochetkov is going to show up. Like the line changes RBA made- more energy, more chemistry. The blue line will be a season-long issue, I think. The right combination still needs to be discovered on the 3rd pair and I think it'll involve shking up the 2nd pair to get there. Again, I'd like to see what a Skjei-Chatty and Orlov-Pesce pairing would look like. Orlov and Chatty have a long way to go, but Skjei and TDA worked well as do TDA and Chatty. But Orlov is getting paid too much to be a healthy scratch too often and Chatty is playing too well to be left out of the lineup. Now, if it's okay with you guys, I'll go finish my humble pie for breakfast.

I'm taking the night off. If the Canes win, I can be both happy and surprised. I don't believe the Canes can win against the upper tier teams with the current pair of goalies. Coupled with the Orlov-Chatty blue line that has yet to gel... well, they have issues. They'd be better off putting Orlov and Pesce as the second line and put Skjei and Chatty on the 3rd. Both of them (Skjei & Chatty) are playing very good D and it would negate some of the last change matchup issues. Bottom line- I'm expecting a loss, so anything else is a good thing.

Canes were out-muscled, out-played and weren't ready to meet physicality with physicality. The Orlov-Chatty pair was rough when the season started with it and it's rough the second time around. I said before the season started that the blue line pairings after the top 4 were going to be difficult. The 3rd line is producing nothing and Bunting is a waste of money if he has nothing around him. Guy will get you 30 goals, but he'll be lucky to pot 15 alongside Drury, who is a liability.

Horrible call. Tough to win when it feels like you never get a call.

Noesen has been a pest in front. Like how RBA put Marty 48 out there on the Aho goal.

Don't see them coming back in this one unless they score on a couple PPs.

Yeah. He started finding his way when Pesce went down.

3 Canes all went to the puck side- nobody had the off side. Easy pass, easy goal.

Nor can he read defenses, see over his own linemen or routinely throw the ball more than 10 yards with any velocity. Spoken by someone who doesn't play special teams.... and they were the only reason the team even scored. Dalton played the most offensively productive game of the season for the Panthers, but if he's washed up... well.... what about the first overall pick?

Tepper doesn't need to do anything if all he wants to do is make money. The NFL TV contracts, revenue sharing and creative financing (no hard cap), make any NFL franchise a study in voodoo economics. Do nothing, have a bad product and still make money hand over fist. Can't survive in the NHL doing the same thing.

The NFL should schedule these 2 teams to play each other every week in London, Frankfurt, Mexico City,

No dude. The Firebird with the Phoenix decal on the hood.

Fitz said Young is a flat line....lol... as in "dead?"

TV guys reaching for anything to make this game watchable... and they're getting paid to watch.

It was both highlights of the season, they just used different camera angles...lol.

Comparing the NHL and the NFL with respect to franchise valuation is apples and oranges. The business models are completely different in almost every facet. The financial operation of the NFL contains so much "projected" and "future" money and, with the exception of the Green Bay Packers, are privately owned entities. Therefore, no one really knows how much money owners are making. Look no further than the salary cap structure for both leagues. At least the NHL has a hard cap and it doesn't take a PhD to figure it out. Meanwhile, the NFL salary cap is so completely convoluted that everyone has a paid capologist. It allows for teams to say they'll pay someone x-dollars over the next 5 years, defer some of it, guarantee some of it, etc. The NFL is a business model that operates as a monopoly, not so much the NHL. The most floundering, worst team in the NFL will continue to appreciate and make money regardless of their situation. See what happened with NHL franchises who faced on-ice and financial challenges? North Stars, Whalers, Thrashers... The NHL business model requires a level of on-ice success to remain a viable franchise. But, as was mentioned several times throughout the thread, the bottom line is this- the Canes are a successful franchise and the biggest factor in the financial success is they win. NFL owners egos are the only motivating factor for winning. They will make money regardless how bad the on-field product is.

I know it's the Sunday of Thanksgiving weekend, but I do have 2 seats available in Section 215, Row B, seats 5&6 if anyone is interested. They are part of my season package and I can easily transfer the tickets. PM me for details if interested. Anyone here wants them I'll pull the listing from Ticketmaster.

Yeah, usually, you can count on Staal to win the draw and he gets off the ice with Burnsie, Slavin stays on with whomever (Necas & Aho). I put my tickets up for sale for the Blue Jackets game on Nov 26.

No, I bought these extra a few weeks ago because I didn't want to wait another 10 days for my season package to start. To tell you the truth, I've spoken with a lot of fans who had season packages and gave them up this season because of the changes they made to seat selection, schedule packages, etc. I may end up selling a good number of my season tickets and just buy resale. Not fond of the seats I had little choice in selecting in 215. I'll probably pass on the season package next year and just buy on the open market.

In person allows you to see so much more of the skaters working together. Anyway, for starters, both penalties on Staal were crap. Especially the trip while the puck was tied up on the boards. Next, a whole lot of grade A chances where guys just missed an open net. Game should have been a 5-2 regulation win. Orlov is figuring it out and playing much better. Chatfield will be my next sweater. Dude is playing lights out D. He's come a long way and might be the second best D-man on the team. Gotta admit that was easily Raanta's best game of the season. He made 3 saves I thought were sure goals. Pisser moment: They don't sell Riviera beer at the main Club bars anymore. Stand in line only to be told it's sold in the small lounge bar. Da fug.... Scary moment: Staal, Slavin & Burns on the ice to start OT and they don't win the draw.....