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The good news, the price for Bryce is finally paid if he shits the bed this year (and i do not believe he will), they can move on…good draft class ahead …and they did not reach too badly let’s be optimistic. Cant hurt

They can afford to…they can cut him and not miss him not true for the Panthers

Well…it’s a billion dollar business. it is hard enough to win a single game without distractions …the Panthers had two bad issues….the Browns showed what taking a chance gets a franchise I do not blame these franchises one bit Don’t need stupid

Jalon walker come on down

Sigh

Let it go Louie

…or, what they really think of Ickey or if Moton is wearing down…we just don’t know those inner discussions

I thought I read Williams said he had a lingering ankle issue from the season that slowed him during combine / workouts I was surprised to read it as I had not heard that before if that is factual, forget about it

Wishful thinking

Some real bad ones in here….take a walk down memory lane Ranking every Panthers draft class 1. 2001: Dan Morgan, Kris Jenkins, Steve Smith Sr., Chris Weinke, Jarrod Cooper, Dee Brown, Louis Williams, Mike Roberg. 2. 2002: Julius Peppers, DeShaun Foster, Will Witherspoon, Dante Wesley, Randy Fasani, Kyle Johnson, Keith Heinrich, Pete Campion, Brad Franklin. 3. 2011: Cam Newton, Terrell McClain, Sione Fua, Brandon Hogan, Kealoha Pilares, Lawrence Wilson, Zachary Williams, Lee Ziemba. 4. 1995: Kerry Collins, Tyrone Poole, Blake Brockermeyer, Shawn King, Frank Garcia, Michael Senters, Andrew Peterson, Steve Strahan, Jerry Colquitt, Chad Cota, Michael Reed. 5. 2012: Luke Kuechly, Amini Silatolu, Frank Alexander, Joe Adams, Josh Norman, Brad Nortman, D.J. Campbell. 6. 2005: Thomas Davis, Eric Shelton, Evan Mathis, Atiyyah Ellison, Stefan LeFors, Adam Seward, Geoff Hangartner, Ben Emanuel, Jovan Haye, Joe Berger. 7. 2007: Jon Beason, Dwayne Jarrett, Ryan Kalil, Charles Johnson, Ryne Robinson, Dante Rosario, Tim Shaw, C.J. Wilson. 8. 2008: Jonathan Stewart, Jeff Otah, Charles Godfrey, Dan Connor, Gary Barnidge, Nick Hayden, Hilee Taylor, Geoff Schwartz, Mackenzy Bernadeau. 9. 2017: Christian McCaffrey, Curtis Samuel, Taylor Moton, Daeshon Hall, Corn Elder, Alex Armah, Harrison Butker. 10. 2006: DeAngelo Williams, Richard Marshall, James Anderson, Rashad Butler, Nate Salley, Jeff King, Will Montgomery, Stanley McClover. 11. 1996: Tshimanga Biakabutuka, Muhsin Muhammad, Winslow Oliver, J.C. Price, Norbert Davidds-Garrido, Emmanuel McDaniel, Marquette Smith, Scott Greene, Donnell Baker, Kerry Hicks. 12. 2014: Kelvin Benjamin, Kony Ealy, Trai Turner, Tre Boston, Bene Benwikere, Tyler Gaffney. 13. 2018: D.J. Moore, Donte Jackson, Rashaan Gaulden, Ian Thomas, Marquis Haynes, Jermaine Carter Jr., Andre Smith, Kendrick Norton. 14. 2003: Jordan Gross, Bruce Nelson, Mike Seidman, Ricky Manning, Colin Branch, Kindal Moorehead, Walter Young, Casey Moore. 15. 2000: Rashard Anderson, Deon Grant, Leander Jordan, Alvin McKinley, Gillis Wilson, Jeno James, Lester Towns. 16. 2021: Jaycee Horn, Terrace Marshall Jr., Brady Christensen, Tommy Tremble, Chuba Hubbard, Daviyon Nixon, Keith Taylor, Deonte Brown, Shi Smith, Thomas Fletcher, Phil Hoskins. 17. 2013: Star Lotulelei, Kawann Short, Edmund Kugbila, A.J. Klein, Kenjon Barner. 18. 2015: Shaq Thompson, Devin Funchess, Daryl Williams, David Mayo, Cameron Artis-Payne. 19. 2004: Chris Gamble, Keary Colbert, Travelle Wharton, Drew Carter, Sean Tufts, Michael Gaines. 20. 1999: Chris Terry, Mike Rucker, Hannibal Navies, Robert Daniel, Tony Booth. 21. 2020: Derrick Brown, Yetur Gross-Matos, Jeremy Chinn, Troy Pride Jr., Kenny Robinson Jr., Bravvion Roy, Stantley Thomas-Oliver. 22. 2022: Ikem Ekwonu, Matt Corral, Brandon Smith, Amare Barno, Cade Mays, Kalon Barnes. 23. 2016: Vernon Butler, James Braderry, Daryl Worley, Zack Sanchez, Beau Sandland. 24. 2023: Bryce Young, Jonathan Mingo, D.J. Johnson, Chandler Zavala, Jammie Robinson. 25. 2024: Xavier Legette, Jonathon Brooks, Trevin Wallace, Ja’Tavion Sanders, Chau Smith-Wade, Jaden Crumedy, Michael Barrett. 26. 2009: Everette Brown, Sherrod Martin, Corvey Irvin, Mike Goodson, Tony Fiammetta, Duke Robinson, Captain Munnerlyn.

First round (No. 8 overall): Jalon Walker, EDGE/LB, Georgia Second round (No. 57 overall): Jaylin Noel, WR, Iowa State Third round (No. 74 overall): Bradyn Swinson, EDGE, LSU Fourth round (No. 111 overall): Harold Fannin Jr., TE, Bowling Green Fourth round (No. 114 overall): Cameron Williams, OT, Texas Fifth round (No. 140 overall): Korie Black, CB, Oklahoma State Fifth round (No. 146 overall): Jordan James, RB, Oregon Fifth round (No. 163 overall): Nick Martin, LB, Oklahoma State Seventh round (No. 230 overall): Tim Smith, DL, Alabama

He also said Matt Corral was the best qb in the draft that year i don’t say that to be contrarian it is just in the ‘eye of the evaluator’ and their biases i think the guy is too small but Morgan should know iM more concerned about appeasing Evero who may not be here next year along woth his system

8. Carolina Panthers: Jalon Walker, edge/LB, Georgia A hybrid player, Walker is at his best as a joker edge who can be flexed around the front seven and give a blocking scheme fits. There is certainly risk involved with his projection, but it isn’t hard to see why so many teams have Walker — who discovered his love for football about a half-hour north of Charlotte, N.C. — ranked so highly. 57 Panthers (from LAR) T.J. Sander DT. South Carolina 74 Jack Bech WR TCU 111 Billy Bowman Jr. S Oklahoma 114 Panthers (from DAL) Dorian Strong CB Virginia Tech 140 Panthers (from NYG) Demetrius Knight Jr. LB South Carolina 146 Caleb Rogers G Texas Tech 163 Panthers (from BAL) Jarquez Hunter RB Auburn 230 Panthers (from ARI) Maxen Hook S Toledo

Rd 1. Walker ESPN went big for the Carolina Panthers in their latest 2025 mock draft. This time, the worldwide leader enlisted the expertise of both Mel Kiper Jr. and Field Yates—who went pick for pick over three full rounds. Kiper Jr. started Carolina's haul with the obvious prospect at Pick No. 8, Georgia linebacker Jalon Walker: Carolina had big-time defensive issues last season. Walker can roam the second level with his sideline-to-sideline speed or fly off the edge to get home on the quarterback. The Panthers have to get some difference-makers on that side of the ball. Walker, the perceived frontrunner for the selection, played both off the edge and off the ball for the Bulldogs in 2024. He recorded a team-leading 6.5 sacks en route to capturing a first-team All-American selection and the Butkus Award. rd 2. OT Ozzy Trapilo No. 57—Boston College offensive tackle Ozzy Trapilo Carolina must think offensive line early in this draft with a bunch of guys in contract years. Trapilo would be appealing for the Panthers as they try to improve Bryce Young's protection. One of those guys in a contract year is longtime starting right tackle Taylor Moton. The 6-foot-8, 316-pound Trapilo could serve as a depth piece in 2025 and a possible heir apparent to Moton, who turns 31 years old in August. Rd 3 DL Tyleik Williams Kiper Jr. wrapped up the pull at No. 74, with Ohio State defensive lineman Tyleik Williams: More defense for Carolina. Williams is stout against the run but also shows the quickness and suddenness to penetrate the backfield. He had 21 run stops over the past two seasons, which is good news for a Panthers team that allowed a league-worst 5.2 yards per carry in 2024.

Thanks for taking the time to do these threads

different viewpoint Has that helped the Bengals? …the eagles have premium receivers but they also mostly run the ball and rely heavily on those lines and rotation football is, and will always be, build from the inside out

In this scenario, a team wanting a QB becomes an opportunity to trade down if the opportunity is there and compensation good enough My justification is simple, I have seen several tier rankings of the DEs. After the top 2 or 3, well. The depth is good If no trade back then and staying at 8 1. Take BPA regardless of position and in this case OT trumps WRs…learn from Philly build that line and Moton isnt getting any younger 2 or defense is the focus, the line would be great but, best cornerback available, and CB trumps most other Def positions let’s face it, Horn does have his history ….and i dont know about you all, but im sick of seeing Evans running through the secondary like Secretariat in the Belmont Stakes

Todd McShay @McShay13 · Follow So the @Titans have respectfully cancelled private workouts with Travis Hunter and Shedeur Sanders, making it all but official they will take Cam Ward No. 1. And now I’m starting to hear more and more about Hunter to Cleveland at No. 2. That would mean Abdul Carter vs. Shedeur Show more 2:19 PM · Apr 5, 2025

Todd McShay on Williams

I will share this separately in its own link it is a Quick Look at the Edges and the ‘yeah but’ with each from Todd McShay

Ny Times Jaylin Walker to Raiders 8. Carolina Panthers: Mykel Williams, edge, Georgia The second Georgia player to go in the top 10, Williams was injured in the 2024 opener against Clemson and didn’t get to play much in the first half of last season. But he was back for a big game at Texas in October and gave UT fits, notching two sacks. He had two more sacks against the Longhorns in the SEC title game. The 6-5, 260-pounder has 34 1/2-inch arms with potential that makes D-line coaches giddy. “He was banged up a lot this year, but when he was close to 100 percent, he’s super twitchy,” an SEC tight ends coach said. “He’s a freak.” He’ll boost a Carolina team that had the worst pass rush in the league. “He’s more of the traditional defensive end guy than Walker,” said an SEC O-line coach who was really impressed by both Georgia players. “He can either be that 3-4 outside linebacker or 4-3 end. He has real pass rush ability. I think he’s an elite edge rusher. He’s great chasing from behind, and he can play the run well enough.” ESPN Rd 1 8. Carolina Panthers Jalon Walker, Edge/LB, Georgia The Panthers have made a series of edge rusher investments over the past two years, but none has massively moved the needle. The Panthers -- who allowed the most yards per play (6.0) and tied for the third-fewest sacks (32) last season -- could truly address their need in the top 10, though. Walker had 6.5 sacks in 2024 even though he spent a lot of his time patrolling the middle of the field at off-ball linebacker. Carolina could deploy Walker in a hybrid role since it needs a boost at both linebacker and edge rusher. rd 2 57. Carolina Panthers (via LAR) Jaylin Noel, WR, Iowa State At 5-foot-10 and 194 pounds, Noel might be a better fit in the slot than outside. But he has serious explosion, averaging 14.9 yards per catch last season en route to 1,194 yards and eight scores. Noel could join Xavier Legette and Jalen Coker to form an intriguing young WR corps. NFL.COM. IDEAL FIRST 2 picks Round 1: No. 8 overall: Tyler Warren, TE, Penn State Round 2: No. 57 overall: Kevin Winston Jr. S, Penn State The Panthers might have bigger needs on their roster than at tight end, but they are unlikely to find a more impactful player on offense than Warren. His presence as a safety valve and red-zone threat would aid Bryce Young's progression as a third-year starter. In this scenario, they take Winston -- a rangy, secure tackler -- to play beside free-agent pick-up Tre'von Moehrig. By taking two prospects from the same school with their first two picks, they follow the lead of the Rams (who actually traded Carolina this year's 57th overall pick as part of the process of pairing Jared Verse and Braden Fiske of Florida State) and Jaguars (who took Brian Thomas Jr. and Maason Smith out of LSU) last year.

Could be a smokescreen or ‘water is wet’ Canales stopped by the set of Up & Adams on Monday, at the site of the league's annual meetings in Palm Beach, Fla. Host Kay Adams asked him about the potential direction of the eighth overall selection. DAVE C ‘To be in this position, in my mind, when you have an opportunity to pick in the top 10 of the draft, we're doing all the work on making sure we identify the best available player," Canales replied. "We've had some great conversations about some offensive playmakers in this class, some defensive playmakers—and we've come away with saying, 'Ok, look, we are going to get a great player. Let's make sure we have the right guy, the right fit. Somebody that we want to be a Panther for a long time.' So that's really where our conversations are." Disappointed with Canales' initial lack of details, Adams then prodded for more. And after a little banter about needing a wide receiver, Canales dug a bit deeper. "We have to address the needs on defense first," he added. "We're 32nd in the NFL in defense, and that's something where our focus has gone to—to make sure that we can play good, balanced, complementary football‘

1.8: Shemar Stewart, EDGE — Texas A&M There are a lot of pass rushers in this class, but only two I believe can become transcendent talents: Abdul Carter and Shemar Stewart. This is a pick that has serious boom-or-bust elements to it, which is why Stewart will almost assuredly be available at No. 8, rather than being a Top 3 pick. Why Stewart didn’t produce in college is an absolute mystery based on his unicorn physical traits. That’s the biggest red flag here. However, the Panthers are a team that likes to take physical outliers with the belief they can coach them into the players they want them to be. If Carolina can do this with Stewart there’s a very real chance he could emulate former Aggie Von Miller and have a similar impact in the NFL. Yes, he’s potentially that good, and the Panthers won’t pass on that upside — even if it feels like a reach on draft night. 2.57: Benjamin Morrison, CB — Notre Dame The possibility of a defensive lineman looms large here, but in my simulated mocks the class didn’t break in a way that allowed it to happen with the 57th pick. Instead the Panthers sure up their secondary with Morrison, who could easily start on the outside across from Jaycee Horn. Pass defense was a big issue for Carolina a year ago and while their tendency is to work inside-out and use pressure as pseudo pass defense, they can’t afford to go into the season with their secondary depth chart as it currently stands. Morrison is a ball hawk who can help the Panthers win the turnover battle, which is a great trait considering that Bryce Young has become a fairly reliable hand under center who doesn’t throw a lot of picks. 3.74: Jayden Higgins, WR — Iowa State Much in the vein of the Shemar Stewart pick, this follows the Panthers’ ideal that you can’t teach size. At 6-4, 215 pounds there are shades of a poor man’s Mike Evans here — and that will intrigue Canales and offensive coordinator Brad Idzik. Higgins is far from the perfect prospect, and at this point he will need a focused, limited system that doesn’t ask him to do too much initially. That makes Carolina a solid home where he’ll be the fourth receiver out of the gate behind Xavier Legette, Adam Thielen, and Jalen Coker. The idea wouldn’t be for Higgins to contribute greatly in year one, but put himself in a position to become the No. 3 option when Thielen presumably retires from the league after the 2025 season. Another “we can coach him up” pick, this is a solid place to get a big-bodied target for Young. 4.111: Demetrius Knight Jr, LB — South Carolina Making the difficult decision to part ways with team leader Shaq Thompson was a necessary pain point of the offseason. Now the draft affords the Panthers a chance to find his replacement. Carolina needs a tackling machine to pair with Josey Jewell inside the Panthers’ 3-4 defense — and Knight Jr. is an ideal fit for everything the Panthers like from their inside backers. He’s smart, instinctual, and while he might not have top-tier athleticism, he’s playing a position which doesn’t necessarily require elite measurables. When there’s a chance you can land a reliable starter in the fourth round or later, you take it. It’s for this reason I think the former Gamecock would be a great addition to the defense. 4.114: Kevin Winston Jr, S — Penn State A raw prospect, but the kind of player the Panthers love in the back-end of the draft. Missed the 2024 season due to injury, but that hasn’t scared Carolina in the past. This is another physical tools type guy who has the potential to be coached up. Filling the secondary with depth should be a major focus for the Panthers in the draft, and Winston Jr. is an upside player who could very easily develop into a starter. 5.140: Jordan Phillips, DT — Maryland Projects primarily as a run gap stuffer in the pros, Phillips is a back-end pick designed to add to the DL rotation as the team gets older. Can immediately have a place thanks to his high football IQ, and while he’s not the most athletic player in the class, coaches have praised his work ethic. 5.146: Jamaree Caldwell, DT — Oregon A big-bodied nose tackle with the potential to develop into Shy Tuttle’s replacement in the 3-4 front with coaching. Caldwell can eat space, but has also shown limited flashes as a pass rusher — which could allow for for scheme flexibility. 5.163: Barryn Sorrell, EDGE — Texas Sorrell is somewhat technique limited, but ranked in the Top 10 among defensive ends at the combine in athleticism rankings. In the NFL he projects as a 3-4 linebacker with a solid toolbox of pass rushing moves, though his future could be limited as he lacks elite top-end speed. Still, he can find a place as a rotational linebacker. 7.230: O’Donnell Fortune, CB — South Carolina A long, slender cornerback with some ball hawk traits. Fortune is a depth defensive back with the ability to play zone in obvious pass schemes. At best could develop into a nickel, but this pick is about providing defensive options for Ejiro Evero.