Soul Rebel

So, you're saying......

Tagging him if we pull off a S&T looks like the most economical option. YGM has had the better overall year between he and Burns. He might not pop as much, but way more consistent and productive this year. Evero unlocked his potential. Adding a true NT like Maduibuike or Wilkins beside DB will open up our pass rush more.

I think we can rely heavily on AT, Mingo and ISM IN 2024. I think ISM is young enough to be the eventual slot replacement for Thielen after ‘24. Mingo can have that AJ Brown trajectory and be good….potentially really good in a year or two. Landing Higgins would be huge and then getting another game changing offensive weapon in R2 is paramount. I do agree that Tremble has improved enough to see if another year with a more competent coaching staff can etch his name in pen rather than pencil long-term. He plays with purpose and a chip on his shoulder….we need that. IOL is on the roster, IMO. Two of BC, Mays, Zavala & Icky can hold down the two IOL spots. Maybe Icky and BC swap spots and we’re set. I’m not banking on it, but it’s a possibility. Regardless, our first two picks should be WR & OL. Bring in Higgins & Madiubuike in FA.

We are the most recent iteration of the Cardinals/Jets/Jaguars/Texans.

Or even worse.....take a gamble with a 2024 draft pick to replace him.

Agree fully with this. I just keep coming back to Evero on this. Perhaps a guy like Klint Kubiak is the next Slowik, but for OC. I do agree that Slowik is intriguing, while possibly being a year or two early for a HC gig.

This unit is still transitioning too an odd-front as its' base. He was sifting through guys like Tuttle, Williams and Houston off the scrap heap. Let him have a more prominent role in the decision making process as HCs do.

The Houston FA signing is another example of Fitts' trash decisions, but it also leads to one of Fitterer's biggest mistakes....not making Reddick part of the plans. I get Reddick wanted to go back home, but we were building something here and I think if the team showed more of an interest from the jump and genuinly wanted him back, he stays. We helped wipe the stank off his AZ days, played to his strengths, and he thrived here. Much like many of Fitts' moves, his make-up moves are bad....but the initial root of "why" he's needing to make that move, is usually worse (signing Baker after Darnold, after Bridgewater.....trading DJ and then pining for how awful our WR core is). Way too many of these.

Johnson is the dream. Harbaugh is the vet culture changer that can fix Bryce. Neither are coming here. Belichick would not come to this much of a project at his age and history. I see him in LA or somewhere with more pieces to the puzzle in place. Panthers fans need to be comfortable with either Evero, Slowik, Smith or O'Brien. Truthfully, Evero is going to make the most sense and deserves his shot. Learn from the Wilks mistake. I also think Flores could be a darkhorse, but I doubt he wants to go another round with an undersized 'Bama rookie QB.

Mannnnnn, there are gonna be a lot of receipts in a couple of years depending on how this goes. A lot to walk-back and some delicious crow to eat. Should be interesting.

I don't know enough of how deep an organization is into the offseason, at this time of year. Based off other folks smarter than me with how front offices' run, it makes no more sense to fire a GM and his band of merry men midseason than it does on Black Monday. If it's inevitable and this is the move (the correct move FTR), I'm happy for a new regime. SF is arguably more responsible for this awful 1-12 product than Reich was.

Two points here.... - The Alabama deep ball numbers are concerning because you have to hit on that at the NFL level. I didn't see his 2022 numbers there....I wonder if those are better after a year as the starter? - Look at how few attempts he's made on a per game basis before yesterday. Kinda hard to get comfortable if you never do it. The connection with your WRs, their tendencies, confidence, etc. has been a non-factor for the first 12 games. Biggest thing I noticed yesterday was our desire and execution of forcing the ball downfield. I loved it even though he was off. This will come with reps. More talent at the skill positions will help too. Having a running game adds another layer.

I didn't go through all 16 pages, but I think BY will be fine. Rookie mistakes? Yup. Does he look like the "point guard" "doesn't need elite talent...." cerebral QB that doesn't lose? Nope. He is in the midst of a sh!t show offense that I can't remember in my 25+ years of watching this team. He's broken, but not unfixable. There's no easy fix, but a few big time FAs that support him, move Icky to LG and hit on day 2/3 draft picks will go a long way. He's owning mistakes. He's owning other's mistakes and taking it on like a leader does. He gets knocked down 10 times, he gets up 11. His passes don't get batted. He's staying healthy despite getting destroyed week in and week out. First fix though....hiring the correct GM/HC partnership. If we F that up, Bryce is cooked.

Can we also do Steichen over Reich? Steichen/Stroud was the right answer.

Steeler fans want Tomlin out in PIT. Defensive HC - check Veteran leader - check Who does he bring on O?

If Icky is what we think he will be at LG, I would think that would benefit BC at LT. BC has been good, not great thus far. With a LOT of time off the past year plus, I think he could return to LT in the right scheme next to Icky. Signing a vet in FA or after cuts would be wise too. Donovan Smith is no spring chicken but on a short deal, could make sense. Worst case, Icky to LG and BC to RG for Corbett insurance until Zavala is ready.

I think, as others have pointed out as well, that Ben Johnson is the preferred route, but doubt we are his choice. At that point, Harbaugh looks like the strongest and wisest move to make at this point. This sh!t show in Charlotte needs to be gutted and rebuilt. Harbaugh is the top candidate to do this successfully. Seeing what JH did with Alex Smith and Kaep, I think it also helps Bryce get his confidence back if it truly is as shaken as it appears. Our OL is already partially built for Harbaugh's style and we might be able to keep the only good coach on this staff in Evero with his previous ties to JH in SF.

Before this weekend, I was not a fan of Harbaugh here. After seeing how broken and inept we are all year long, I do wonder if someone like him would have an effect like Payton is having in Denver. Russ' play took an insane nosedive last year and was wondering if his best days were behind him. What SP has done to right the Broncos this quickly is impressive, despite not liking the guy. Harbaugh's offensive approach is not what I want per se, but he does have a successful history with guys like Smith and Kaep that I wonder would translate over to Bryce. He also wins, his teams are physical and don't quit and walking in here is very reminiscent of how it was for him in SF. They were blowing through coaches, constantly losing and their ownership was a laughingstock. This team is more than just an offseason or two away from roster juggling and hiring a young and upcoming OC/DC. If Johnson isn't the answer and they don't stay internal with EE, then Harbaugh might be the next best move. I never thought I'd want JH here, but I'm tired of losing and looking like an XFL Team in preseason mode.

WR and OT class is deep. We could get a first-round talent at WR in mid/late round 2. If our goal is to protect Bryce and build our IOL so he can perform better like was done for Brees, kicking Icky inside is a no-brainer. I'd like to see BC with some experience under his belt and a stud LG like Icky beside him. We could find a very good OT in R3 this year too. All depends on HC/GM and the direction they want to go in. If it is someone like Harbaugh, our current OL (with Icky at G) is made for his style of offense.

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So many offensive weapons on display the past 24 hours in our range in R2: Polk McMillan Johnson Franklin Worthy Mitchell Sanders

I have zero idea how the body of work will end up for Mingo vs. Dell. It clearly favors Dell right now and it's not close. Based on the production in school, Mingo was a long-term solution at WR and was going to need some seasoning and polish. AJ Brown, who Mingo is often compared to, was a late-bloomer. I'd kill to have AJB here right now. Also, Dell is 24 years old compared to Mingo being 22. Not that this is an indicator, but Mingo's routes look lazy right now and he still has the college hangover of being better than everyone else.....not in the NFL. I think those two years could be a difference in maturity too. Lastly, it's the system. Watching this team on offense is painful. Everything looks so difficult, labor-intensive and super-slow to develop. Route concepts don't make sense, there's zero protection which means zero running game to set-up the pass. These defenses are sitting back and keeping everything in front of them beacuse they know Reich's system is trash. Every single player has regressed except for AT and Chuba.

Makes sense that the two guys we are pursuing are 1 & 2. I'd argue that BJ has more to do with DETs success than Smith in MIA, but Smith is probably this year's Slowik.

I wonder if TMJ gets activated now.