rayzor

what makes Young better? I would consider managing a game to mean keeping awareness of the whole field, where his guys are and where defenders are, whether downfield or in the backfield. It's using that awareness combined with skill, ability, and intuition to limit mistakes and turnovers while also pushing the ball forward efficiently and scoring points. And both are very good at it. I just think that Stroud does better without having to scramble, but, again, both do what they do really well. Also, if you are going off reports about the S2 Cognition Test and how this year's results for QBs are the highest they've ever been and from watching both Young and Stroud that they are both probably among the top of the pack as far as processing ability is concerned. Both are fantastic in their ability to process everything while playing. Both manage the game incredibly well. Both make the most of opportunities. It just seems like Stroud can get most everything done from within the pocket, even while under pressure while Young seems to bail out of it when it isn't completely necessary. Whatever situation either QB finds themselves in, they are able to make it work. You don't have to agree with it. It's just my opinion.

it could be, especially considering that in the GA game he was sacked 4 times and there had only been one other game in which he had multiple sacks to that point and even then it was just 2. also...it's not like GA is your average defense in even the SEC. it's arguably the best that there is. Young didn't play GA last year, but they played them twice the year before...both big games of course. 1st game Young did pretty well, 3 TDs, no INTs, and no sacks. the second game they didn't do nearly as well. Young had 1 TD, 2 INTs, and was sacked 4 times. all in all, imo, as far as the ability to sense and handle pressure in the backfield i think it's kind of a wash. if anything i think Stroud is able to handle it better so that he doesn't have to resort to running. it's not that he doesn't trust his legs to get him out of trouble, it's that he'd rather use his legs to scramble and find the best passing option and he does really well with that. And he's usually able to do that without bailing out of the pocket. Young will use his legs to scramble, but i think he bails out of the pocket probably sooner than he needs to. The thing is that he's able to still make it work. I think he's better than Stroud at that kind of thing, but not much better. Young is probably the more entertaining of the two because he's able to make so many plays on the run, but it might be that he does that kind of thing so often when it could have been avoided, which is something that Stroud is able to do...avoid bailing out of the pocket. Young is a magician because he has to be due to his style of play. Stroud doesn't have to be due to his style of play. I would be incredibly happy with either, but i think that i would prefer stroud more. i think that his style of play makes him less susceptible to injury and eventual mistakes than Young does. Young's size doesn't bother me much. Young's relying on his mobility and his legs more makes him more susceptible to injury and mistakes. again, all just my opinion.

well....

yeah i think that a lot of the magic young uses was needed because of the situations he allows himself to be put into. stroud just hasn't needed it. i think the processing abilities and quickness are very high for both. i think that stroud may just be the better of the two at managing the game.

i looked at the number of times that both Young and Stroud were sacked in college... Young - sacked 63 times in 3 years. 2020 - 6 (9 games) 2021 - 39 (15 starts) 2022 - 18 (12 starts) Stroud - sacked 26 times in 3 years. 2020 - 0 (2 games) 2021 - 13 (12 starts) 2022 - 13 (13 starts) i couldn't find number of pressures, but i was kind of shocked that Stroud took so many less than Young.

i don't know...stroud always looked like a very mobile and elusive QB in the backfield. He just seemed reluctant to take off running and looked fairly awkward when he did...up until the game against GA and then he looked completely natural. He may not have that spidey sense that Young seems to have, but he always seems really aware of everything in the backfield and upfield. they both have a very good sense of awareness.

we might be able to get him for a third and maybe a day 2 pick next year. would be worth it even for a 2nd this year. i would not be upset at all. if we can pull off DHop and Chark i'd be ecstatic.

What a clusterf*ck of a thread.

You made a thread asking to have someone explain this to youso you can understand. The problem is you won't change your mind about it. You don't like the move. You think you know what this team/coaching staff needs or wants to do and how to do it better than them. If this was still the Rhule/Wilks era, which you might fit better in, that might be the case. We're dealing with guys that know offense now and know how to be successful. Probably the best thing for you to do is just watch because you're really not interested in any conversation.

Maybe they aren't satisfied with just being fine, bro.

You make it sound like Sanders is a hack scrub. You haven't been paying attention or you are just overly biased if you think that's the case. Or you're just drunk and you just want to argue about something.

If we were doing the same poo as last year, Foreman would have been fine and the status quo would have been enough. Apparently we got a new coaching staff that is not going to be satisfied with the status quo and is going to do things that require a different kind of back from Foreman and that Hubbard might have some similarities to style-wise, but a better quality than Hubbard was needed, which we got. Sanders is better/more talented/more versatile than Foreman and Miles ahead of Hubbard.

What if he promises to not get hurt?

i would love to keep him around, but yeah i think someone else is going to want him and pay him what he may have earned last year.

step one to this is hiring experienced NFL people to start with.

Good for him. Better for us.

That would be the simplest answer.

Btw....I'm on the Foreman + Sanders would be brutal for defenses. Please make it happen.

I changed the title to match the genius that is Joe Person

"Tom Brady's successor"

same here. 2 of those three and i'd feel fairly good about the WR. not great...but ok.

it definitely wouldn't hurt. shouldn't be too expensive. he's got a good bit of talent and we could definitely use him. no way should he be the only addition, but he'd be a good one.

i've said it before....i think they probably have a gut feeling of who it will be and now it's just a matter of making sure they are going to be making the right decision. They probably obviously feel good about one or two others, but i think they probably know who they want. next month and a half is just going to be assuring themselves that they are picking the right guy. i'm sure a lot of the decision will be based on schemes that they are no doubt trying to come up with when thinking about each player. which ever one excites them more will likely get the job.

wouldn't hurt my feelings if we picked up another TE like Austin Hooper.

i like it. dude is a baller and a brawler. great safety outlet for the new QB. and it looks like we're collecting all the gingers lol.