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Fox must go. We win in spite of him. Enough is enough.

TylerDurden

By TylerDurden,
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I wasn't sure he should go after the embarrassing loss to the Cards, and after a few days I calmed down and reasoned that consistency is indeed the key to success. In those regards, I felt that having Fox and his staff in place for a long-term would eventually lead us to a championship. After ignoring and overlooking so many obvious signs... It's time to face the facts. Julius has made it clear that Fox doesn't have the team's heart, ears, or minds...

Our players basically coach themselves. The signs have been there for so long. It explains blown coverages and extended periods without adjustments. Stuff we have been doing the last couple of years has been inexcusable, and then we eventually just accept it because we think we are stuck with Fox.

I'm not out to get someone out of a job, but as with any career, when someone isn't doing their job on a consistent basis, they lose it. It's time for him to lose it. A pattern of .500 or below and then a winning season is not consistent. It's inexcusable. We supposedly have a possible Hall of Fame CONSISTENT COACH in Cowher waiting in the wings, and we're bullsh*tting with a guy who can't figure out to double team Larry Fitzgerald and allows Julius Peppers and Tyler F*cking Brayton to drop into coverage on 3rd downs. If enough fans make noise, he will be gone. I'm tired of this sh*t.

Pep's comments and actions have shown that Fox lost his respect. So did Kris Jenkins. Mike Minter just basically inferred he was forced out so Pep should do what's best for him. I believe Rucker was forced out slightly early. Thomas Davis was switched between positions 3 or 4 times. Deangelo sat on the bench for 2 years while an ineffective and fumble prone Foster continued to play in front of him. Players like Jarrett and Barnidge can't see the light of day, yet Fox stuck with COLDbert for 3 years too long. Why? Because he has no f*cking idea what he's really doing. Look at all the things I've just listed. Tell me if you were a player that these things wouldn't make you question your leadership... If you say it wouldn't you'd be lying.

I'm convinced, as many have said, we don't win b/c of our coaching, we win IN SPITE of our coaching. As I mentioned, it appears our players have coached themselves. And when Fox has intervened, the results haven't been good: Gamble's lateral on a punt return anyone?

I typically don't go on witchhunts for someone's job. But the results speak for themselves. Pep has inferred that he gave up on Fox. Pep has hardly spoke, has always been a quiet guy, never one to stir up controversy, and he sat here for 7 years and took it. Now he sees on the other side of the fence and can talk about it. It's what I suspected, and now that it's confirmed, I'm ready for a change. If a guy like this is saying these things, imagine how all the other players feel... Scared to speak out, either b/c of respect for Mr. Richardson or b/c Fox is so insecure he invokes a gag order on his organization to keep people revealing what a true idiot he is.

If he's such a great coach, let's find out after he goes somewhere else. Enough is enough. He's taking the wind out of our franchise now, especially over the last 3 weeks. He's vanilla. He doesn't adapt. Survival of the fittest... And Fox is out of shape.

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Agree with everything

We have a horrendous schedule next year too so we won't be able to get by with squeaking out wins against the bad teams and losing to the good teams. Its obvious that Cowher wants the Carolina job and he is a better coach then Fox as the results have shown.

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By your logic, anyone who shoots less than 90% in basketball should be benched.

Measure the guy against the success of his peers and you'll see that he's either the luckiest coach in NFL history or he's pretty damned good.

Your post may be heartfelt, but it's wrong and unreasonable.

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Damn dude, we went 12-4. No Panther team has ever done better than that. If Jake Delhomme doesn't have the worst game of his career in the play offs, we wouldn't even be talking about this.

No excuse MC... Steve Mariucci went 12-4 and 10-6 his last two seasons with the Niners, winning the NFC West title his last season, a wild-card game, and then got blown out in the divisional against the SUPERBOWL winning Bucs. Guess what happened? He got canned.

Mariucci was well regarded. Then he went to the Lions and either proved not to be the coach he was regarded as or he just wasn't given a chance. The same thing I think will happen to Fox if he is fired.

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yea and did san diego think marty would be fired after 14-2? We will never get over the hump with the schemes we run. There so old and basic and one dimensional, this guy has lost the locker room even on a 12-4 team imagine if we got 6-10 or 4-12 next season? We may be talking about smith demanding a trade you never know.

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We will never get over the hump with the schemes we run. There so old and basic and one dimensional, this guy has lost the locker room even on a 12-4 team imagine if we got 6-10 or 4-12 next season? We may be talking about smith demanding a trade you never know.

I dont understand why so many fans cant see this. THE team has lost its two most dominant Defensive players in back to back offseasons. THAT should never happen.

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Agree with everything

We have a horrendous schedule next year too so we won't be able to get by with squeaking out wins against the bad teams and losing to the good teams. Its obvious that Cowher wants the Carolina job and he is a better coach then Fox as the results have shown.

What do you base that on?

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No excuse MC... Steve Mariucci went 12-4 and 10-6 his last two seasons with the Niners, winning the NFC West title his last season, a wild-card game, and then got blown out in the divisional against the SUPERBOWL winning Bucs. Guess what happened? He got canned.

Mariucci was well regarded. Then he went to the Lions and either proved not to be the coach he was regarded as or he just wasn't given a chance. The same thing I think will happen to Fox if he is fired.

And what have the 49ers accomplished since then?

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