Andrew Luck vs. Jimmy Clausen

[kdrh5]

Many people said those QB's had the skills that would translate to the next level.

The thing is, you don't really know if the QB has skills that translate to the next level, until he actually gets to the next level.

Were these no. 1 overall picks like Sam Bradford or Luck is going to be or where they undrafted like Chris Leak and Jason White?

[Big Ed]

Your post is very incoherent.

90% of QBs show nothing...exactly, 90% of QBs get other jobs they don't get to keep playing.

Those remaining that show nothing in their second year have to go find jobs as well but now there are less of them since the 90% that didn't make it the first year took them.

Some do go to Europe.

Less than .5% come back from Europe to win SBs.

So are you saying after year two we should send Clausen to Europe then have him come back and win a SB? How long is this going to take? 15 years?

How long do we stay with Clausen after he keeps showing nothing? How many passes will he get from you? What is improvement? What is one thing that he has that Luck doesn't (besides 4 NFL losses)?

I don't care if you fire Clausen tommorow

Draft Luck next season

Fire Luck at end of Season when he did not get it done

and draft Joe Blow for QB the next season

and Billy Bob Thorton the next

As long as you believe that this will fix the Panthers problems

Heck even a blind Squirell can find a nut .

Q B is not this teams big problem .

Explain why D Williams and Stewart can.t move the ball

Yes they are injured now ,but before then.

[Fiz]

Big Ed you should probably just stop posting for a while

[Big Ed]

You do realize that this team can address the offensive line issues with one of its other draft picks, free agency, and getting Jeff Otah some pain meds, right?

People act as if that first round draft pick is our only pick

How's those pain meds working this season

Agreed on the only pick !!

[TheRealDeal]

I don't care if you fire Clausen tommorow

Draft Luck next season

Fire Luck at end of Season when he did not get it done

and draft Joe Blow for QB the next season

and Billy Bob Thorton the next

As long as you believe that this will fix the Panthers problems

Heck even a blind Squirell can find a nut .

Q B is not this teams big problem .

Explain why D Williams and Stewart can.t move the ball

Yes they are injured now ,but before then.

Again, we have more than one pick. I don't know how long you've watched football or followed a team but there are 7 round to a draft. Sometimes you get really lucky and you have more than 1 pick per round, other times you aren't so lucky and you don't even get 1 pick in a round.

For example, we could draft a QB first and a lineman second then a DT then a Corner and so on. We get about 10 choices this year. Luck only costs 1 of them (hopefully we don't have the #1 pick then trade our second to move down...yes you read that correctly).

THERE IS NO DOMINANT O LINEMAN IN THIS DRAFT! DO NOT REACH!

[kdrh5]

I don't care if you fire Clausen tommorow

Draft Luck next season

Fire Luck at end of Season when he did not get it done

and draft Joe Blow for QB the next season

and Billy Bob Thorton the next

As long as you believe that this will fix the Panthers problems

Heck even a blind Squirell can find a nut .

Q B is not this teams big problem .

Explain why D Williams and Stewart can.t move the ball

Yes they are injured now ,but before then.

Would it make you happy if after drafting Luck, we signed Logan Mankins and used every other pick on offensive right guards, since they're so important and hard to find outside of the early first round where we'll be drafting?

[Big Ed]

Big Ed you should probably just stop posting for a while

You Reckon

[Big Ed]

Would it make you happy if after drafting Luck, we signed Logan Mankins and used every other pick on offensive right guards, since they're so important and hard to find outside of the early first round where we'll be drafting?

You Guys are sold on Luck !!

Super Bowl next season

I Get It !

Later

[Fiz]

hmmm the only hole we have on the offensive line was just created by the departure of a former undrafted free agent from the culinary institute that we picked up off waivers

better throw a first rounder at the problem

[kdrh5]

If the question is simply, "Clausen or Luck?", then the answer is quite obviously Luck all day every day, and that'll be reflected in their respective draft positions come April, plus the generally higher regard in which Luck is held as opposed to the differing opinions on Clausen, some of which questioned whether he was even the best QB on Notre Dame's roster last year.

[Big Ed]

Again, we have more than one pick. I don't know how long you've watched football or followed a team but there are 7 round to a draft. Sometimes you get really lucky and you have more than 1 pick per round, other times you aren't so lucky and you don't even get 1 pick in a round.

For example, we could draft a QB first and a lineman second then a DT then a Corner and so on. We get about 10 choices this year. Luck only costs 1 of them (hopefully we don't have the #1 pick then trade our second to move down...yes you read that correctly).

THERE IS NO DOMINANT O LINEMAN IN THIS DRAFT! DO NOT REACH!

And you know that based on their college rankings

:yesnod:

I get it !

[kdrh5]

You Guys are sold on Luck !!

Super Bowl next season

I Get It !

Later

Um, you really dont

[TheRealDeal]

And you know that based on their college rankings

:yesnod:

I get it !

You seem to be the only one getting it, whatever it is.

Edit: Now my sarcasm and KDRH5's post make us look silly.

[Fiz]

i believe any aversion to drafting luck in lieu of clausen illustrates the difference between playing for notre dame v. playing for stanford.

the average nfl fan watches like 3 college games a week. it's not really their fault.