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It's a good thing football games aren't won in the trenches and it's a super good thing that we didn't fill our other need along the Dline this draft so now we might as well play with 7 guys on defense.

Yes but we could possibly be in a worse situation than the prior year in the weakest area of our team in one of the most important areas of a team.

They had more overall talent on the line and edges than we do.

I think the ownership should be held responsible for good-great players leaving without any compensation in return. If we locked up CJ or Kalil last year instead of being pussies about the future then one would be signed and the other tagged.

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we may not win or lose it based on CJ but to pretend he doesn't matter is insane.

Where did I say that? I said he is not the most important thing going forward. Cam is. If we resign all our players and become incredible on defense, we still aren't going to win dick if Cam doesn't develop.

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Where did I say that? I said he is not the most important thing going forward. Cam is. If we resign all our players and become incredible on defense, we still aren't going to win dick if Cam doesn't develop.

uhm, okay, and if we let everyone who is a FA walk and replace them with "two or three" people, our defense will blow, our offense will in time break down, and all we'll be left with is Cam Newton, developed or not.

not many are saying to throw everything we can money-wise at CJ but the reality is that he is a top tier FA talent at the DE position and if we want to keep him we'll have to pay.

The idea that Cam is developing in a bubble is ridiculous. The better our defense the easier his transition will be, and the more likely we are to actually win some games next year and become competitive sooner.

edit: obviously all is not lost if we lose CJ and obviously developing Cam is paramount but IMO part of the team improving and doing better next year, which will help Cam, is actually keeping CJ, and it's not like keeping CJ somehow slows Cam's development.

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it's just depressing knowing we could have had, at the very least, Kalil & Johnson locked up in extensions right now had JR not closed the checkbook for the lockout.

I'm not on the JR is cheap bandwagon (yet), but he really fuged up this time.

I was mad when they drafted Cam(I support it now, don't get me wrong). Take that anger and double it, that's how I'll feel if CJ walks.

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honestly, I do believe JR will go out of his way and open up and spend more money than usual to prove last year was an aberration - but that money will go mostly to keeping who is here. I personally believe that CJ is only going to be gone if he *wants* to be gone, because I think we'll be making him very competitive offers.

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uhm, okay, and if we let everyone who is a FA walk and replace them with "two or three" people, our defense will blow, our offense will in time break down, and all we'll be left with is Cam Newton, developed or not.

I also didn't say that. Don't throw around bad scenarios like they are my ideas. Charles Johnson, one player, might want to walk. That is all I have been talking about. It would be bad, but he is not a lock hall of famer in his prime. Teams can get over good free agents leaving.

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But then it goes back to who wants to play for an owner that is okay with losing and actually setting up his team to fail in order to prove a point?

Atlanta has shown they want to win now and maybe they will convince CJ is that missing piece, even get him for less money.

Wouldn't that be a dagger?

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I also didn't say that. Don't throw around bad scenarios like they are my ideas. Charles Johnson, one player, might want to walk. That is all I have been talking about. It would be bad, but he is not a lock hall of famer in his prime. Teams can get over good free agents leaving.

Not terrible teams, especially not terrible teams with an overall weakness at the position the good free agent is leaving from (general) and not a team that has a few tweeners that will have to try and take his spot who are one dimensional and another guy who's injury prone and is a wildcard.

Those teams don't get over it.

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