Keyshawn Johnson calls Jarrett a "Bust"

[Ashor]

Let me break it down for those who are ignorant. The main reasons Dwayne Jarrett was deactivated more often than not was because of the playbook learning or lack there of, coaching issues with the whole DUI debacle, the fact that we had to activate a returner as well named Ryne Robinson and didn't need Jarrett on the active game day roster. Another very important note about Jarrett's rookie campaign that many people have failed to remember was the quarterback rendezvous with the four different starters. Not to mention Steve Smith had his second worst production year as a starter because of our quarterback issues. Jarrett just simply didn't take the time to learn the playbook as well as the coaching staff wanted him to. He had a "diva" attitude and didn't really work hard enough as I would liked to have seen. I remember reading up, on this website, that someone mentioned last year when they were interviewing Jarrett, Steve Smith walked up to him in a serious tone and said "How about you go and study the playbook?" which basically showed me how Smith was frustrated with Jarrett's development because of his lazy work ethic. Jarrett has talent and will play up to everyone's expectations if he is given the chance to start every game over Muhammad. Jarrett is physically bigger than Muhammad in both height and weight so if Jarrett learns technique and blocks half as decent as Muhammad, then we have our starter for years to come. The best answer I can give everyone on why Jarrett's production hasn't been up to par is because we don't have a pass heavy offense or even close to that phrase. Everyone knows the numbers already and everyone also knows that outside of Smith and Muhammad, nobody really gets any passes. Jarrett should play in every game this season because he is the third receiver in our depth chart and barring any injuries, his production will go up. However, as long as Muhammad is the designated starter, Jarrett won't produce. As a matter of fact, as long as Muhammad is the starter, it doesn't matter what receiver we bring, they wont produce anything close to the starting receivers' numbers. Our offensive system would make Calvin Johnson look like Keary Colbert on paper. The fact of the matter is, we need Jarrett to start to show the pessimistic fan base that he isn't a bust.

[King Taharqa]

Coming to Carolina wasnt a great situation for a young receiver like Jarrett. No matter how well he improves he will be no greater than #3 on the depth chart behind Steve Smith and Muhsin Muhammad. His QB is Jake Delhomme who is one of the worst QBs in spreading the field and using his entire receiving core. His coach is John Fox who's conservative nature doesnt call for alot of passing and has not shown a strong ability in developing the 2nd round talent he picks. Jarrett IS a bust, but maybe in a different situation he would not have been.

[mantal]

it's also general football knowledge that if a WR is a playmaker then he'll display that talent from day one.

when playmakers hit their stride, they become league leaders.

jarrett will never be the player that some people think he should be.

keyshawn is right when he tagged jarrett a bust.

So every player has to be a world beater number one receiver to be successful? Welcome to your world, how you doin'?...

[Fireball77]

Well... at this point, what would you call Jarrett?

At this point, I still call him a wait and see.

After 2009, that will change either way, + or -.

If they are a rookie and on the roster for 3 years, I give them 3 years to show it one way or the other.

[The Link]

Jarrett will have a break-out season this year.

[monstercat]

As long as double trouble is in the Panthers backfield, and Smitty and Moose are lining up at WR, the third guy (regardless of who it is) is just not gonna get many catches. We are not the Saints, who throw the ball 40-45 times a game. And frankly, I hope the Panthers never adopt that philosophy.

[panthersphan]

If he's gonna break out...it's now or never....until Jarret is a complete Bust.

[hdevonxz]

I'm saying Colbert and Carter were given the reigns and try to save their careers by cutting Keyshawn.

They shouldn't have been given anything, because Keyshawn shouldn't have been cut.

Jarrett was expected to be better than Colbert and Carter, and the FO knew it which is why they cut Keyshawn.

They didn't cut Keyshawn to give Keary Colbert and Drew Carter another shot. That's dumb. Why would you cut someone who was already higher on the depth chart and better than the players you cut them for?

Jarrett was the insurance policy. And from the looks of it, and all their moves, they've never come outright and said that their second rounder, Dwayne Jarrett was going to start. EVER. I've been saying this entire time that Jarrett was drafted as BEST PLAYER AVAILABLE at the time they drafted to be a DEVELOPMENTAL GUY.

Dwayne Jarrett was projected to go as early as #14 overall. That's a 1st round talent. You don't draft someone in the first round, or early in the 2nd for a developmental guy. Developmental players are drafted in later rounds.

And you sure as hell don't draft a receiver that early to not start. We aren't the Raiders here.

You seem to have this idea stuck in your head that there is no way they would cut Keyshawn if Jarrett wasn't meant to take over.

No, I realize that they cut Johnson because they thought Jarrett could fill his role and be an actual starting receiver.

You just said it yourself that Jarrett was drafted to replace Keyshawn.

But this is the PANTHERS FO, and don't think this doesn't happen on other teams either. The Patriots are notorious for stockpiling picks and getting a lot of DEVELOPMENTAL guys. Will these higher round picks start? NO, God No. Hell Their Safety Meriweather was a first rounder, yet HE BARELY GOT ON THE FIELD for his first couple seasons.

The Panthers FO isn't the best, but they sure as hell expected more out of Jarrett as did everyone else.

Jarrett is a bust.

Keyshawn was signed for ANOTHER season, he was the cheaper option for the NEXT season. His CAP Hit was a Post June or whatever cap hit, which impacted the NEXT season.

A cap hit is a cap hit, you don't take one to cut a player better than the ones you have. That's stupid.

Well duh, he didn't mature like expected, he was NEVER EXPECTED TO TAKE OVER RIGHT AWAY.

He was a 2nd round pick, first round talent. If you don't expect those players at least to be activated for game day, than you don't pick them. It's as simple as that.

If Jarrett wasn't expected to take over, or at least play, than why was Keyshawn cut? Oh yeah to make room for a "youth movement, and give Keary Colbert and Drew Carter another chance"................

Which you seem to continue to think whereas ALL MOVES, AND ALL NOTIONS POINT OUT OTHERWISE. I'm saying the Panthers didn't get to see him early in TC because of his injury WHICH PUSHED HIS MATURATION BACK.

You're being ridiculous, if anything an injury should allow you more time to learn the play book and the plays. Jarrett didn't work hard enough to get on the field, it's as simple as that.

WHICH HE CAN'T DO IN TC CUZ HE'S INJURED. He can learn the playbook though. And HE DID improve this past TC with his work ethic.

That still doesn't make him a productive player in the NFL, he is still a bust.

More like, he didn't get a chance to prove himself in TC. Then, Colbert and Carter played out the rest of the year trying to catch passes from DAVID fuging CARR. I'm pretty sure you forgot who we had at QB that season... so even if he was on the field, Carr would check down to TE anyway.

Jarrett wasn't injured the entire training camp, and even when he came back he didn't get activated. You're making excuses that are reaching.

Jarrett had plenty of time to prove himself, and he didn't.

Jenkins didn't start excessively voicing his opinions until after we tanked. He already didn't want to be here anymore after all the trade talks.

lol what do you call saying the team has no heart, just after a loss?

Jenkins didn't want to be here, seasons before we traded him.

I don't think keyshawn would have been able to teach him ANYTHING that we aimed to do in 2008. Namely blocking. Jarrett's weaknesses when getting drafted were that he can't get separation and that he hasn't really shown he can block. I don't think Keyshawn would have been able to mentor him as well as Moose.

All that is speculation that will never be known.

I agree, Keyshawn would have still been better, but you can't get your younger players on the field more without removing the old ones with big egos who think they are still better than them but have a clear dropoff in ability. Keyshawn would produce stats, but he couldn't help us produce wins, and in the next year it didn't matter anyway.

lol it wasn't about getting Colbert and Carter on the field, it was about keeping them off.

You do the best things to help the team win. Which is why Jarrett didn't even get playing time when we had no chance of making the playoffs.

Also Keyshawn would have been better than Carter/Colbert, which means he would have helped us win.

I'm saying he can't be considered a BUST because he was never labeled as going to be what you claim he was supposed to be. It's been 2 years. Jeff King didn't do poo his first year in Carolina then broke out his second year after getting stronger and bigger. and that's for a TE!

I, along with everyone else has said "he's a bust so far" so far. So far he hasn't done anything to warrant his selection in the draft, that makes him a bust. That is the epitome of what a bust is.

[Seamonk]

They shouldn't have been given anything, because Keyshawn shouldn't have been cut.

Jarrett was expected to be better than Colbert and Carter, and the FO knew it which is why they cut Keyshawn.

They didn't cut Keyshawn to give Keary Colbert and Drew Carter another shot. That's dumb. Why would you cut someone who was already higher on the depth chart and better than the players you cut them for?

Well he was cut. And Jarrett wasn't supposed to take over right away.

Dwayne Jarrett was projected to go as early as #14 overall. That's a 1st round talent. You don't draft someone in the first round, or early in the 2nd for a developmental guy. Developmental players are drafted in later rounds.

And you sure as hell don't draft a receiver that early to not start. We aren't the Raiders here.

How f*cking stupid are you that you can't understand that draft position doesn't influence whether someone starts or not. There are people at rounds 3-7 selected to start. And there are people at rounds 1-2 that are selected to sit one or two years. You seem to think that it's impossible for someone to do that, YET MANY TEAMS DO IT.

No, I realize that they cut Johnson because they thought Jarrett could fill his role and be an actual starting receiver.

You just said it yourself that Jarrett was drafted to replace Keyshawn.

.... I said he was drafted to replace what Keyshawn couldn't be: Muhsin Muhammad.

The Panthers FO isn't the best, but they sure as hell expected more out of Jarrett as did everyone else.

Jarrett is a bust.

And you accuse me of speculating.....

A cap hit is a cap hit, you don't take one to cut a player better than the ones you have. That's stupid.

Think for the long term, retard. You take one so in the future you don't have to pay him. You don't think his cap hit the year after isn't going to be BIGGER than the year before?

Dwayne Jarrett: 7/27/2007: Signed a four-year, $3.825 million contract.

Keyshawn Johnson: March 23, 2006, Johnson signed a four-year, $14-million-dollar deal

He was a 2nd round pick, first round talent. If you don't expect those players at least to be activated for game day, than you don't pick them. It's as simple as that.

If Jarrett wasn't expected to take over, or at least play, than why was Keyshawn cut? Oh yeah to make room for a "youth movement, and give Keary Colbert and Drew Carter another chance"................

How thick are you? Just because he was drafted "high" with First round talent(even though it was the second round, so apparently even though the talking heads said first round, a lot of teams didn't think so), doesn't mean he HAS to see the field. You seem to be under a misconception that anyone drafted high is ALWAYS drafted to start.

Lemme put it this way:

Keary Colbert was a second round pick... and if Steve Smith didn't get injured, he would have never seen the field as much as he did his rookie season. And he CERTAINLY wasn't drafted to start right away. He was #4 on the depth chart or lower. Barely getting activated early.

You're being ridiculous, if anything an injury should allow you more time to learn the play book and the plays. Jarrett didn't work hard enough to get on the field, it's as simple as that.

But he did this past season. You barely mention this past season. His work ethic and knowledge has improved, The FO themselves have said that numerous times.

The Dude isn't Eric Shelton, he's already seen the field a lot more and he seems to be on his way up. And showing promise to succeed isn't what a bust is. The guy isn't Reggie Bush either, he was drafted IN THE SECOND ROUND, he wasn't like a #1 overall pick.. THOSE are the ones that you should be starting from day one. There is no policy that says that you have to start First and Second rounders right away. And it's not like Jarrett sucked so hard he was on practice squad.

That still doesn't make him a productive player in the NFL, he is still a bust.

You can't say "bust so far", you'd have so many players in the NFL right now that are "busts so far" otherwise. Saying it just gives the player a bad image for no reason. And you yourself said that he could still become something even though he's apparently a "bust so far"

Jarrett wasn't injured the entire training camp, and even when he came back he didn't get activated. You're making excuses that are reaching.

Jarrett had plenty of time to prove himself, and he didn't.

He did a lot to stay on the team and work himself into the #3 role. And don't think it was because Hackett beat himself out, Hackett was healthy to end the season but they went with Jarrett more and more to end it out.

lol what do you call saying the team has no heart, just after a loss?

Jenkins didn't want to be here, seasons before we traded him.

You mean.. in the 2 seasons he was injured? cuz he only played 1 season after that..2003 he played, 2004 he was injured, 2005 he was injured, 2006 he played, 2007 he made his comments.

Seasons?

All that is speculation that will never be known.

And all your comments are completely biased to the point that you never agreed with Keyshawn getting cut.

lol it wasn't about getting Colbert and Carter on the field, it was about keeping them off.

You do the best things to help the team win. Which is why Jarrett didn't even get playing time when we had no chance of making the playoffs.

Again, you're trying to tell me what the FO was thinking.. but it's really just your opinion. Also, Jarrett DID get playing time when we DID have a chance to make the playoffs. Out of the final 8 games, he was activated 6 times. If we had won against Dallas then Tampa, our record would be 8-8. We were still in the hunt up until that Dallas game.

And the only person who had more than 2 receptions in the final 3 games was the #2 WR Drew Carter and Our #1, Steve Smith. And Carter never got more than 3 receptions in any of those.

Also Keyshawn would have been better than Carter/Colbert, which means he would have helped us win.

Like he did in 2007. Helped us win.. converting those big third downs that we desperately needed. Being that big threat in the endzone.. Yeah.. You know that guy.. the guy who evaluated our team needs on espn during the draft and basically calling people out. Yeah that guy, he would have been great to have when Jake went down.

I, along with everyone else has said "he's a bust so far" so far. So far he hasn't done anything to warrant his selection in the draft, that makes him a bust. That is the epitome of what a bust is.

You seem to be skipping over a lot of people... because "everyone else" hasn't said he's a bust so far.

The thing is, after 2 seasons, not a lot of players have exactly "warranted" their selection in their draft. It is WAY too early. The epitome of a bust is someone who is highly touted and just plain out FAILS to be anything. You seem to be putting the label "bust" into a pretty broad category, but it's not. and the fact you have to constantly qualify and elaborate by saying bust ....SO FAR.. is exactly why he's not a bust. he's still got the potential. and a bust no longer has any.

[1789Cardiac Cats9020]

The kid is 22, he's barely started his career not to talk of being a bust. That said though, I wouldn't be shocked to see him fall below Jason Carter.