Do you think Cam's success had an impact on how people look at RG3?

[Mr. Scot]

Speaking of Griffin...

Robert Griffin III extortion target of former Baylor basketball player

[TheRed]

We'll see in a few years who turns out the better player. I'm not one for handing a Hall of Fame jacket to a guy with 6 wins on his resume but its very early in his career.

So I guess since wins are a not a team statistic, if the redskins only win 6 games this coming season then rg3 will be considered unproven and mediocre because he can't win more?

Just following your poo logic you've been flinging around here for ever since i can remember grits.

[pOpCoRnPoPpEr]

Glad you are on top of things. If they don't have a winning record i'd be upset.

[edromeo]

I will be very interested to see what RG3 does from under center and in a crowded pocket this year because there is no doubt that RG3 has all the tools to be an incredible pro but he has a low release point, is a little short, and was actually less patient in a crowded pocket than Cam was at Auburn.

I am pulling for him though because he has the potential to be very, very exciting.

Disagree about the low release point.

I don't understand the whole height issue, Griffin is average height for a QB, in fact he's actually taller then Aaron Rodgers and no one calls him a little short.

Also disagree about pocket presence.

Little known fact that during Griffin's freshmen year at Baylor they were under center alot.

As Briles evolved the offense they ran more and more shotgun.

So Griffin actually has more experience under center then most think.

About playing from within the pocket:

Because of his dual-threat capabilities, Griffin has often been compared to Cam Newton, but Griffin's college offense focused more on passing than Newton's. In Griffin's final season at Baylor, he attempted 110 fewer designed rushes than Newton did in his 2010 season at Auburn.

Additionally, Griffin passed on more than 84 percent of his drop-backs, which was a slightly higher percentage than Newton's at Auburn. Eighty-three percent of those passes came from inside the pocket, where Griffin completed more than three-quarters of his attempts.

As with Newton, scouts have questioned whether Griffin can make the transition from a spread offense to a pro-style system in which he would have to take snaps from under center. Newton took 95.7 percent of his snaps from the shotgun in Auburn's spread offense but was able to adapt fairly easily to a pro-style system in his first year in the NFL, completing a similar percentage of passes in shotgun and under center.

Last season, Griffin took 88 percent of his pass attempts from the shotgun, but his numbers from under center were actually better than his numbers from the shotgun.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2012/story/_/page/NextLevel120419/doubters-drove-robert-griffin-iii-make-big-leap

Under Center/ Shotgun

75.0%/ 72.3% comp pct.

11.7/ 10.5 ypa

7-0 / 30-6 TD-INT

Don't get me wrong Griff has his flaws, but I don't think the ones mentioned are them.

[pOpCoRnPoPpEr]

This guy ^^^