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PFT wrap up.


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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/26/sunday-night-wrap-jets-offense-simply-offensive/

7. The Panthers have apparently elected to go with slow and steady over athletic ability at free safety.

Former Ravens backup Haruki Nakamura (who was stuck behind some guy named Ed Reed) got the start and took all the work with the first offense.

Former second-round pick Sherrod Martin, who unlike Nakamura has range, is now a bench warmer.

This was initially a competition, but it appears the Panthers have made their decision. Martin’s such a better athlete it’s comical, but he had a series of gaffes in coverage last year that even had the owner cracking on him.

Basically, they’re electing to go with a limitation they can plan on rather than guessing where the more talented Martin will be.

Are we really benching the more talented player?

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Athletically, it's possible... I don't see much drop off in athleticism, if there is any. But, I'll tell you what - Nakamura is a bad A dude. When Slauson came in with the cheap shot and he pulled his helmet off, I suddenly remembered how highly decorated he was in martial arts and was wanting Slauson to take him up on his invitation, lol.

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he's looked pretty good in coverage so far. nothing blown, always there for the stop, good against the run, good in deep zones.

and a vocal communicator.

there's a reason he's the starter.

Exactly. They're called "safeties" for a reason. Protect the field deep first and foremost and you'll probably never lose your job.

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He makes it seem as if Martin didn't give Rivera enough reasons to seek other options. Nakamura might not be the answer for the long run, but the season is starting soon. He doesn't have all day to see if Martin is going to pan out anymore. He can't just keep Martin as the starter because he's "more athletic" or has a "higher ceiling". Rivera wants his defense to improve now. I doubt he cares about potential (b-b-but the potential!) at this point. If we want our safeties to be reliable and athletic, then oh well. Beggars can't be choosers.

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