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Will DJ Moore become a solid weapon for Cam Newton?

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TL;DR - DJ Moore has all the potential in the world. Athletic and analytics in his favor. Plenty of good looking traits around the short-intermediate range. Needs to work on beating press to be more of a deep threat/on the outside. Day 1 contributor, albeit not expected to be flashy early. Could be a stud with proper coaching.

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Also, forgot to mention a comparison I'd make for his floor and upside.

His floor is a more athletic version of Jarvis Landry. Mind you, I hold a low opinion of Landry, but even. He will excel in the short and intermediate range from the slot, and provide far more athleticism than Landry could dream of. For those of you who are fans of Landry and his game, this could be seen as a good sign. 

And, btw, a more athletic version of Landry imo is good. My biggest knock with Landry is how he's clearly not that athletic and really is overrated from inflated targets. Even then, his role as a solid reliable short-intermediate catcher isn't bad at all, and I'm sure Moore will capitalize more in that area than Landry with less receptions.

His upside? Peak Demaryius Thomas. Would be a joy to see if that comes to fruition.

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Oh, and Golden Tate is another valid comparison I believe Matt Harmon actually makes. Perfectly reasonable to even expect to see him resemble that style early on. YAC monster, excellent catching technique. 

Either way, DJ Moore's honestly one of the safest receivers in this class. Even if he never develops on the outside, his floor is a solid short-intermediate receiver that can give Cam easy first down lay-ups. I'm excited for the kid. His issues are coachable and fixable. As long as he gets on the right path towards improvement, he will be great for us.

 

 

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I wonder how much our scouts and Hurney value analytics? Hurney's history shows his first round talents were analytic freaks. DJ Moore is no exception. Has all the boxes you want checked from production, age, and numerous athletic scores. Some consider him one of the best WR in a while just from an analytics point of view. 

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not high on moore anymore. cant run any routes besides slants and screens effectively, and when he does it's in garbage time. notice how many of the gifs posted were garbage time. top it off with only one (1) good season, and it raises so many red flags.

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6 hours ago, Pi = 3.1SHutYoMouth! said:

Some consider him one of the best WR in a while just from an analytics point of view. 

Very true.

Hurney’s definitely looking at analytics and athleticism in his receivers. That still hasn’t changed to this day.

Luckily, he also got someone that has proven production rather than just potential. He’s the safest WR of this class with a reliable floor and  a high ceiling.

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Panthers' first-round pick D.J. Moore was prepared to play every receiver position on Friday, the first of a two-day rookie minicamp. What he wasn't prepared for was the hot, muggy temperatures (85 midday) of Charlotte. "People told me [about it], but coming out here running around is a whole other story.'' Wasn't too hot to sign autographs though.

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On 5/11/2018 at 7:47 AM, bewonee said:

Cant run any routes besides slants and screens effectively, and when he does it's in garbage time.

I don't see how garbage affects ones ability to run a route effectively. Route running is route running. You either know it or not. Garbage time doesn't affect how a person runs his routes against situation x. Sure, you can argue the playcalling differs based on garbage time or not, and the type of routes run, but realistically garbage time is not a variable in one's ability to run a certain route.

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On 5/11/2018 at 1:34 PM, TheSpecialJuan said:
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David NewtonESPN Staff Writer 

Panthers' first-round pick D.J. Moore was prepared to play every receiver position on Friday, the first of a two-day rookie minicamp. What he wasn't prepared for was the hot, muggy temperatures (85 midday) of Charlotte. "People told me [about it], but coming out here running around is a whole other story.'' Wasn't too hot to sign autographs though.

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Not sure how a guy from the Philly area and who played college ball in Maryland could be shocked by high humidity mid-80s. It gets every bit as unbearably muggy hot in those areas as it does in Charlotte.

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On 5/11/2018 at 7:47 AM, bewonee said:

not high on moore anymore. cant run any routes besides slants and screens effectively, and when he does it's in garbage time. notice how many of the gifs posted were garbage time. top it off with only one (1) good season, and it raises so many red flags.

You have been repeatedly saying this.  Aside from being totally ignorant about the guy, you also seem to be totally ignorant about being a fan.  You said this once, we disagree.  No need to repeat it every time his name is mentioned in a thread.  It simply makes you seem as if you are hoping he busts so you can tell everyone "I was right. Told you."  That is sad.

The fact is, many WRs bust.  Nobody knows who will and who won't.  A lot of football IQs evaluated Moore and determined him to be either the best or the second best WR in the draft.

Thanks for your red flag alerts.  Every player drafted has them.  We get it.

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1 hour ago, Saca312 said:

I don't see how garbage affects ones ability to run a route effectively. Route running is route running. You either know it or not. Garbage time doesn't affect how a person runs his routes against situation x. Sure, you can argue the playcalling differs based on garbage time or not, and the type of routes run, but realistically garbage time is not a variable in one's ability to run a certain route.

I’m fine with the analytics part of your write up, athletically he’s a freak and I expect huge things from DJ. But you see football as science a little too much. ‘Route running is not just route running’ it’s an art that seperates the greats from the goods. It’s as much acting as it is athleticism, how a wr used his eyes, hands and hips to get a dB to play slow and gain seperation.

Because DJ has had so many different qbs, he’s had to focus on a limited tree and  I can’t imagine the we coaching is the best at Maryland. He’ll develop, no doubt about it, but you should consider adding the art of football in to your analytic write ups a little.

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