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#37 outlaw4

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Posted 28 December 2008 - 06:09 PM

I love this "bail out" theory since I've seen it applied to Jake but not the other 30+ QBs in the league. :lol:

There is a reason Jake will make those kinds of throws to Smitty, IT WORKS!!! It's not Jake/Smitty's fault that they've been able to get away with it since 2003 but until the day they hang it up, it's going to happen again and having some fans complaining post-game about it being risky is a small price to pay.

(...and as I finished typing this, Pennington just threw into double coverage and got "bailed out" by Ginn) :lol:

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Posted 28 December 2008 - 06:16 PM

it's a team sport, bro. they all did good today.

I agree with ya for the most part....but have no idea how we went to sleep and allowed the Saints to make a game out of it.

shinner, I agree with you for the most part. I'm a realist, I understand that Jake is an average QB who becomes above average for his fire and leadership, not for his arm or decision making.

I think a lot of the BJDJS become defensive when a Steve Smith thread turns into a Jake bashing thread and I can't blame them for that. Let's celebrate Steve's awesome catches today and the fact that we're #2 in the NFC with a bye. We can always post another thread to bash Jake, it's been done before... :D

Yer probably right, I guess I didn't need to stir the pot but the BJDJS really get on my last nerve when they talk about how he has this plan worked out with the receivers to just chuck it up and let them come down with it. That's a pant-load my friend.

I love this "bail out" theory since I've seen it applied to Jake but not the other 30+ QBs in the league. :lol:

I couldn't care less about the other "30+ QBs in the league"...I care about the guy who's leading my favorite team....and in that regard, his receivers bail him out regularly.

There is a reason Jake will make those kinds of throws to Smitty, IT WORKS!!!

See what I mean, Mintal?

The 'ol "hit the receiver in stride so he can run for days" school of thought is clearly outdated... :rolleyes:

BTW - I AM LOVING THIS COWBOYS MELTDOWN! :lurk5:

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Posted 28 December 2008 - 06:26 PM

So does the "let's harp on two bailout throws vs. the rest of the completions that were mostly good throws" mentality.

Is he a precise passer? No, never will be. Does he have a certain chemistry with Smitty that no other QB has had with him and make those throws only to him? Yes. Is it always a good thing? No. Is it more good than bad? Yes.

Great job by the offense bailing out the defense again.

#40 outlaw4

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Posted 28 December 2008 - 06:33 PM

So does the "let's harp on two bailout throws vs. the rest of the completions that were mostly good throws" mentality.

Is he a precise passer? No, never will be. Does he have a certain chemistry with Smitty that no other QB has had with him and make those throws only to him? Yes. Is it always a good thing? No. Is it more good than bad? Yes.

Great job by the offense bailing out the defense again.

I was about to say that but you said it better than I did. :D

(That, and the server is going monkey bananas...)

I promised myself I wouldn't get into these Jake fights this year and I'd like to think I did okay, not great, just okay. :lol:

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Posted 28 December 2008 - 06:35 PM

woot?

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Posted 28 December 2008 - 06:43 PM

Deleted the long post I wrote....gonna let the BJDJS be happy in their delusion that these are smart throws.

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Posted 28 December 2008 - 06:47 PM

Yer probably right, I guess I didn't need to stir the pot but the BJDJS really get on my last nerve when they talk about how he has this plan worked out with the receivers to just chuck it up and let them come down with it. That's a pant-load my friend.


1) You are the only that said anything about this "plan". Go ahead and show me where someone said Jake is great because he just throws up balls. Someone said that Jake and Smitty work on those throws because that IS TRUE OMG!!!!

2) You were stirring the pot from the start. Nobody "got on your nerve"

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Posted 28 December 2008 - 06:49 PM

Deleted the long post I wrote....gonna let the BJDJS be happy in their delusion that these are smart throws.


Don't be deluded yourself. Just because you wrote a long post, it doesn't make anything you wrote true.

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Posted 28 December 2008 - 07:12 PM

1) You are the only that said anything about this "plan". Go ahead and show me where someone said Jake is great because he just throws up balls. Someone said that Jake and Smitty work on those throws because that IS TRUE OMG!!!!

Jeeze, I dunno....I'd say working on throwing up rainbows when Smitty is covered sounds sorta like a plan (or at least part of one). If they're working on it then it's pretty safe to say it's part of the gameplan.

2) You were stirring the pot from the start. Nobody "got on your nerve"

Really? You should probably go back and read the thread then...quite a few comments that I took to mean that Jake knew exactly what he was doing.

Don't be deluded yourself. Just because you wrote a long post, it doesn't make anything you wrote true.

what? hehe...dang, what a point! you sound like the guy who made the "better QB" crack.

No one disagrees that JD throws em up hoping Smitty (or Moose or whoever) will come down with it....but they accept it, while it worries me. Got a problem with that? Tough sh*t...it's my opinion. You have yours, which is cool, allow me to have mine. And don't worry, there's plenty of room in Jake's jock for ya.

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Posted 28 December 2008 - 08:16 PM

Smitty has bailed out Jake with his throws his whole career. Today was a prime example. He has all day to throw yet throws ducks to Smith twice while Smith makes the spectacular circus catch. Smith has'nt been the only one. Moose was the one doing it in 2004. Whats lame is the nut huggers coming up with statements out their ass like "what other QB would have the guts to trow into double coverage" or "cause you're a much better QB" other asinine bullsh*t 'cause they can't stand even the slightest bit of criticism of Jake when its the truth....f*cking idiot.


Maybe you've never heard of the end justifies the means, but guess what dipshit, it does.
Jake threw that ball to Smith seeing as he's made that EXACT same catch THREE TIMES in a row against the Saints, one last time we met, and twice in today's game. If you think in the situation the game was in, there was anyone else open, guess again, because the Saints knew we weren't going to run the ball, so all they had to do was go to quarter defense cover 2. That play was gonna go to Steve Smith NO MATTER WHAT the coverage.

You just want the prototypical QB like a Matt Ryan or a Drew Brees, that's why you look for everything you can to make Jake seem like less than he is. Did you forget that Jake won the first two games without Steve Smith? Did you forget how close that Rosario throw was to being picked off, but yet it won the game in the last second? You and your cronies think bashing the old QB is fashionable, when it is in fact show it is just showing how foolishly naive you are.

Smith and Jake work well together and they work on these things together. Smith even talks about practicing that exact play. The Greenbay play, Jake and Smith spoke of Jake telling Smith to keep running because they knew the coverage they would get. If you're going to hold it against a QB for trusting his WR, then God forbid any QB throws anything into coverage, because guess what, the great WRs make catches like that routinely in tight coverage.

Maybe you don't trust Smith to make that catch, but Jake does...and damn right we're glad he's our QB and not a yellow bellied moron like you.

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Posted 28 December 2008 - 08:20 PM

# 34 for MvP ^^

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Posted 28 December 2008 - 08:55 PM

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