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#31 engine9

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Posted 04 January 2009 - 07:04 PM

I don't think anyone could possibly believe that Hamas is concerned about civilian casualties on either the Israeli or the Palestinian side.

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Posted 04 January 2009 - 07:16 PM

To take another tact on this, we speak of Hamas as a single controlling entity. They apparently have multiple leaders and I wonder if they all agree on strategy. And there is the religious influence to consider. How many of them believe that Allah will help them win in the end? And do they actually have that much control in Gaza?

#33 N1kkadeemuz

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Posted 04 January 2009 - 09:25 PM

Deep dark secret about the Christian Right: One of the biggest reasons they support Israel is because the Bible says that God will bless nations that help Israel and punish those who oppose them.

True story.


Ah yes because the Christian Right secretly controls the government and has secret meetings on the moon with Jesus.

Assinine.

#34 N1kkadeemuz

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Posted 04 January 2009 - 09:31 PM

And also since you feel like blaming religion on all of this here's a little tidbit for ya!

Palestinians are Muslim's, not peace having, cookie baking, shake your hand one's, there diluted, murdering fanatics, which like I said in my first post could give a damn if you feel sorry for them or not. They would slowly slice through your neck flesh and cut your head off, all while praising Allah and damning Israel for protecting itself.

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Posted 04 January 2009 - 09:39 PM

I don't think anyone could possibly believe that Hamas is concerned about civilian casualties on either the Israeli or the Palestinian side.



Hamas is closer to The Sopranos than anything else.

Think we feel bad about our political options, imagine the Palestinians.

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Posted 04 January 2009 - 10:37 PM

Hamas is closer to The Sopranos than anything else.

Think we feel bad about our political options, imagine the Palestinians.


The Israelis could deal with the Sopranos. Hamas might be worse because of the extremist religious influence.

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Posted 04 January 2009 - 11:37 PM

Barack Obama's chances of making a fresh start in US relations with the Muslim world, and the Middle East in particular, appear to diminish with each new wave of Israeli attacks on Palestinian targets in Gaza. That seems hardly fair, given the president-elect does not take office until January 20. But foreign wars don't wait for Washington inaugurations.
Obama has remained wholly silent during the Gaza crisis. His aides say he is following established protocol that the US has only one president at a time. Hillary Clinton, his designated secretary of state, and Joe Biden, the vice-president-elect and foreign policy expert, have also been uncharacteristically taciturn on the subject.
But evidence is mounting that Obama is already losing ground among key Arab and Muslim audiences that cannot understand why, given his promise of change, he has not spoken out. Arab commentators and editorialists say there is growing disappointment at Obama's detachment - and that his failure to distance himself from George Bush's strongly pro-Israeli stance is encouraging the belief that he either shares Bush's bias or simply does not care.
The Al-Jazeera satellite television station recently broadcast footage of Obama on holiday in Hawaii, wearing shorts and playing golf, juxtaposed with scenes of bloodshed and mayhem in Gaza. Its report criticising "the deafening silence from the Obama team" suggested Obama is losing a battle of perceptions among Muslims that he may not realise has even begun.
"People recall his campaign slogan of change and hoped that it would apply to the Palestinian situation," Jordanian analyst Labib Kamhawi told Liz Sly of the Chicago Tribune. "So they look at his silence as a negative sign. They think he is condoning what happened in Gaza because he's not expressing any opinion."


http://www.guardian....ama-gaza-israel

#38 Matt Foley

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Posted 05 January 2009 - 06:14 AM

Obama is going to be another Jimmy Carter

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Posted 05 January 2009 - 08:54 AM

http://www.guardian....ama-gaza-israel


I think the Onion would come closer to factually reporting Obama's stance than Al Jazeera.

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Posted 05 January 2009 - 08:55 AM

Hamas is closer to The Sopranos than anything else.

Think we feel bad about our political options, imagine the Palestinians.


Sopranos as in thats how they got elected, thats how they rule, or both?

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Posted 05 January 2009 - 09:13 AM

We don't have a population that lives under siege or in refugee camps either. Hell, there are rednecks here ready to head for the hills with their guns because we elected a Democrat president.

#42 Matt Foley

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Posted 05 January 2009 - 01:16 PM

We don't have a population that lives under siege or in refugee camps either. Hell, there are rednecks here ready to head for the hills with their guns because we elected a Democrat president.


We WILL be under siege, starting January 20.

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Posted 05 January 2009 - 01:18 PM

Have fun up in the hills then.

#44 Matt Foley

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Posted 05 January 2009 - 01:19 PM

Have fun up in the hills then.


Sea monsters don't live in the hills.

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Posted 05 January 2009 - 01:43 PM

And also since you feel like blaming religion on all of this here's a little tidbit for ya!

Palestinians are Muslim's, not peace having, cookie baking, shake your hand one's, there diluted, murdering fanatics, which like I said in my first post could give a damn if you feel sorry for them or not. They would slowly slice through your neck flesh and cut your head off, all while praising Allah and damning Israel for protecting itself.

WOW! Don't hold back on the generalizations there Mr Metzger.


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