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Hoover: Panthers in 'opportunity to fail'

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a 33 year old fullback refuses to acknowledge he's breaking down?

pull

me

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chair

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Of course it was a financial move Hoover was extremely overpaid and he NEEDED to be cut. I never liked him,he is a very whiny person. Its not about playing better than Hoover its about being comparable at a third of the price, its about being efficient. Cutting Hoover is a great move. As said, they probably offered him a more than fair contract for what he was worth considering his history and age.

The guy has blocked for 1000 yrd rushers year after year. He has been a rock on the roster until recently and NEVER had much bad to say until recently. I am totally at a loss for words.

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Yes mick eye, your right, he didn't have much to say... on TV...but that's all I am going to say about that. It's obvious you guys can't step out of the realm of emotional attachment to players.

It's going to be hell around here when Smitty thinks he still has it and is no longer worth his value. Hopefully (and most likely) it won't be too soon...

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Not my favorite move AT ALL but everything else that's been done has made sense for some reason - I am sure this does too.

Having 3 FBs on the team was kind of odd.

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Yes mick eye, your right, he didn't have much to say... on TV...but that's all I am going to say about that. It's obvious you guys can't step out of the real of emotional attachment to players.

It's going to be hell around here when Smitty thinks he still has it and is no longer worth his value. Hopefully (and most likely) it won't be too soon...

This... I learned the hard way with that whole Peppers situation...

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There was no reason he had to be cut at this point. His back did cause problems but who is to say it is degenerative or will continue to bother him. Fullbacks take a lot of abuse especially with run first teams. It makes more sense to have two fullbacks just like we have 2 starting running backs. Sutton was fine for a game but hasn't shown to can do the job day in and day out if Fiametta gets hurt. With our history od injuries at several positions he would have provided a cost effective starter who could be spelled by Fiametta when needed. It wasn't as if Fiametta played all year injury free either. He only played in 10 games and started 2. If he gets nicked we are without a true fullback. Sure we could get by putting guys in there but frankly Hoover wasn't breaking the bank and it isn't like we are going to use the money saved to go out and pick up some high priced free agents.

Like several of the moves we made it made no football sense and was motivated by money only. Hopefully it doesn't come back to bite us, but with our luck the areas where we are thin will be the areas where we will have injuries like we did last year with DTs. He is right that at this point we have done little to improve our team and at this point are worse off than last year with the exception of Moore.

However the draft is approaching and we always seem to be more active in the second half of the FA period.

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I understand his feeling, though I hate to hear this kind of thing.

Hoover was consistently one of the nicest guys to fans at training camp. It won't feel right without him there.

Wonder if he'd look into a broadcast career. I think he'd be good at it.

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Not my favorite move AT ALL but everything else that's been done has made sense for some reason - I am sure this does too.

Having 3 FBs on the team was kind of odd.

Fiametta and Hoover. Who is/was the third?

And don't say Sutton. Sutton is a HB, he is smallest (shortest and lightest) back on the team. He has never played FB at any point in his career other than the one game where Fiametta and Hoover were both out.

Also, I think Rosario outperformed Fiametta by a mile at FB last year.

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The team never carries three fullbacks on the regular roster. They rarely carry two.

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There was no reason he had to be cut at this point. His back did cause problems but who is to say it is degenerative or will continue to bother him. Fullbacks take a lot of abuse especially with run first teams. It makes more sense to have two fullbacks just like we have 2 starting running backs. Sutton was fine for a game but hasn't shown to can do the job day in and day out if Fiametta gets hurt. With our history od injuries at several positions he would have provided a cost effective starter who could be spelled by Fiametta when needed. It wasn't as if Fiametta played all year injury free either. He only played in 10 games and started 2. If he gets nicked we are without a true fullback. Sure we could get by putting guys in there but frankly Hoover wasn't breaking the bank and it isn't like we are going to use the money saved to go out and pick up some high priced free agents.

Like several of the moves we made it made no football sense and was motivated by money only. Hopefully it doesn't come back to bite us, but with our luck the areas where we are thin will be the areas where we will have injuries like we did last year with DTs. He is right that at this point we have done little to improve our team and at this point are worse off than last year with the exception of Moore.

However the draft is approaching and we always seem to be more active in the second half of the FA period.

Just an FYI

P55 would also still have Delhomme, Rucker, and Minter on the team

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I can't get over fans that go on about how great players were.

WERE!!

As Pantro says

I agree some fans live off a players glory years an want that player to play 30 years in the league .

Hoover was good in his time, now is not his time .

Age and injury catches every man !

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IIRC Sutton blocked his ass off when we played the Saints and we hardly missed Hoover. Having a good fullback is important and all, but it's not like they're super rare or anything.

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