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#1 Catalyst

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 02:08 AM

I've been saying for weeks that it'd never EVER happen, but it just might. Free agency has fallen just the right way and team needs could conspire to actually allow Morris Claiborne to fall to us at 9th overall.

Walterfootball's latest mock has it happening and it actually makes a ton of sense. However, the whole notion is completely dependent on three things:

1. The Browns MUST pick Ryan Tannehill 4th overall. This reach would set off a chain reaction allowing the pieces to fall into place for Claiborne to slip...

2. No team picks Claiborne simply because he's the BPA. This is unlikely, IMO, as most teams these days tend to pick players based on need. The possibility remains that the Bucs take him for this reason, even though they feel they've addressed the CB position with Ronde returning, Talib still around, and Eric Wright signed. The Dolphins simply do not need a CB and wouldn't take Claiborne, IMO. The Rams just signed Cortland Finnegan and need a WR badly. The Jags also signed some guys at CB and likely prefer to go OL or WR.

3. Nobody trades up ahead of us once Claiborne begins to drop. This is the wild card. Once he makes it past the Rams a team like the Cowboys could attempt to move up and both Jax and Miami are prime teams to trade down.

If those 3 things happen - and it's very possible they do - Morris Claiborne will be a Panther at 9th overall. Way I figure:

1. Colts: Luck, QB
2. Redskins: RG3, QB
3. Vikings: Kalil, OT
4. Browns: Tannehill, QB
5. Bucs: Richardson, RB
6. Rams: Blackmon, WR
7. Jags: Reiff, OT/Floyd, WR
8. Dolphins: Coples, DE/Ingram, DE/Reiff, OT
9. Panthers: Jack-fuging-pot!

Or something like that. I'm actually optimistic now about the chance of this happening. Never thought he'd make it out of the top-5, but things have come together so perfectly it just might be on the verge of happening.

#2 JawnyBlaze

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 05:11 AM

It'd be nice!

#3 Panthro

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 07:31 AM

I'm worried about those damned Vikings

#4 Jesse

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 08:00 AM

What if the Bucs chose Tannehill? I just have this feeling the "lock" mocks in the top 5 is going to be wrong.

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 10:43 AM

Why would the Bucs choose Tannerhill? I doubt they give up on Freeman this quick. Claiborne might fall to us but I doubt it

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 05:11 PM

Bucs need CB more than RB, can't see him shipping past TB.

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 05:56 PM

he would need to fall past Minnesota, Tampa, and even Jacksonville. I don't think its happening, but we can hope.

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 08:17 PM

He is too much of a talent to fall to #9....but I would piss myself with excitement if it somehow happened.

#9 Ivan The Awesome

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 12:21 AM

I am still hoping and praying this happens. If it does I will be the happiest Panther fan... in mexico.

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 02:17 AM

I think this is more likely than some of you may think. There is actually another scenario where we could get Claiborne even if the Browns don't take Tannehill.

Browns: Justin Blackmon, WR
Buccaneers: Trent Richardson, RB
Rams: Riley Reiff, OT
Jaguars: Quentin Coples, DE
Dolphins: Ryan Tannehill, QB
Panthers: Morris Claiborne, CB

The Browns BADLY need a QB and there are no other free agent/trade options out there that make sense. There also aren't any Andy Dalton type 2nd round talents in this draft so if they want to take a QB it has to be here as Tannehill won't make it to their late 1st rounder. I really think they'll be forced into taking him based on a huge need at the position despite better players being available.

The Bucs just signed Ronde Barber back and gave Eric Wright a ton of money. They wouldn't have done that - and signed Vincent Jackson - if they were intent on drafting Claiborne or Blackmon. I think these moves were made to free them up to draft Trent Richardson. Their new coach is a college guy; to him, the running game is still king and I really think he wants the best RB in the draft to pair with Blount for a ground & pound style offense.

The Rams will have their pick of either Blackmon or Reiff as it's doubtful the Browns take Blackmon (Holmgren doesn't like taking WR's that high) and the Rams have the same primary needs as the Jaguars, who pick right after them. Whichever player the Rams don't take, the Jags most likely will. Corner isn't a huge need for them - surrounding Blaine Gabbert with talent is and they hired an offensive coach, too.

The Dolphins will take Tannehill if the Browns don't, IMO. Mike Sherman is their new O.C. and was Tannehill's coach in college and they missed out on the other viable options. But if the Browns do take him the Dolphins are pretty set at CB with Vontae Davis & Sean Smith and need a pass rusher much worse. Quentin Coples fits the bill here, IMO.

See? It's not such a stretch when you consider the unique situations of the teams involved. I really think it's going to happen, which is a shock considering I would have never said that weeks ago. But I really think things have fallen just right for us to get Morris Claiborne at 9th overall. The only concern I have (other than Cleveland taking Trent Richardson and therefore leaving the Bucs little choice but to take Claiborne) is a team like the Bills or Cowboys trading up ahead of us once he begins to drop.

But yeah, I think this is going to happen. What a steal it might be if we can get this guy and play him opposite Gamble with Munnerlyn in his natural slot position and Hogan as great depth.

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 02:24 AM

You have valid theories, but until it happens we can speculate all we want. If anything the chances of him dropping to us have grown since the combine. Now with that 'surgery' he has had or is going to have, can't remember if its done already. That could help his stock lower a bit. Here's hoping he does drop to us. It would solidify our back field. The rest of the Draft would be BPA.

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 07:46 AM

Why would the Bucs choose Tannerhill? I doubt they give up on Freeman this quick. Claiborne might fall to us but I doubt it

New regime wants a new QB, it's just a small possibility.

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 08:41 AM

Would love for him to drop to us, but not getting my hopes up. Bucs still may draft him due to Talib trail soon (possible he may get jail time and NFL punishment), Barber ageing may retire after the season or next.

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 10:33 AM

New regime wants a new QB, it's just a small possibility.


Not a very strong one. If theres not a trade Tannerhill will probably be the Phins pick.

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 12:32 PM

If Claiborne drops to us, which I don't think he will, I would try like hell to trade back. Don't get me wrong, I think he is a great player, but trading back is our best option no matter who is at #9 simply because we need lots of talent. The FO says itself we build through the draft. Trade back, get another first or second, draft three best defensive players available in first 2 rounds.


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