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Paul Ryan scares me more than Sarah Palin


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#31 GOOGLE RON PAUL

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 08:16 PM

paul ryan isn't as dumb as palin but the media has decided that ryan is a wonk, even though the numbers on his own (hilariously regressive) budget don't add up so when factoring in the media's portrayal of ryan i think it's fair to say that he's scarier than palin

ryan has a degree in economics iirc so it's pretty disconcerting that he's still peddling that flawed budget of his. he seems reasonably intelligent yet thought he could play both sides on the stimulus stuff. ryan is far more insidious than palin

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 08:17 PM

Every 4 years, both candidates find religion and the middle class.

Repubs find foreign enemies and tax cuts which need to be passed

Dems find women who have been hurting, homeless who need feeding, kids who need educating and seniors who are getting ready to be thrown off the cliff.

This ya'lls first election?

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 08:20 PM

paul ryan isn't as dumb as palin but the media has decided that ryan is a wonk, even though the numbers on his own (hilariously regressive) budget don't add up so when factoring in the media's portrayal of ryan i think it's fair to say that he's scarier than palin

ryan has a degree in economics iirc so it's pretty disconcerting that he's still peddling that flawed budget of his. he seems reasonably intelligent yet thought he could play both sides on the stimulus stuff. ryan is far more insidious than palin


I found this footage of paul ryan sitting on his couch after watching CNN's coverage of his first campaign stop:



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Posted 21 August 2012 - 08:27 PM

happens every campaign season

like a parrot farm around here

dems, too, e.g. the OP


What the...

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 08:29 PM

yes you

J'accuse!

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 08:31 PM

And I wasn't insinuating Ryan is dumber by any means. He's much smarter and politically savvy which scares me bc his political ideology is dangerous

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 08:31 PM

I have no doubt that he will pander somewhat to Conservatives if he wins. But he would have done that no matter who he picked as VP. Fwiw pandering (also known as politicking and diplomacy), is a requirement for the president. I guess George Washington didn't have to do it very much, but every successful president since that has been good at it. Read biographies of Lincoln and you will see he was a master at it.


I understand that, but if you don't think Romney is going to do what he says, or what the party says he will do, or what his vice president says he will do, what exactly do you think he will do?

He probably will end up more moderate than he seems now, just as Obama ended up far more moderate than he seemed on election night, but if he is serious at all about Ryan's budget plans, that is very worrying to me.

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 08:46 PM

I understand that, but if you don't think Romney is going to do what he says, or what the party says he will do, or what his vice president says he will do, what exactly do you think he will do?

He probably will end up more moderate than he seems now, just as Obama ended up far more moderate than he seemed on election night, but if he is serious at all about Ryan's budget plans, that is very worrying to me.

I think that Romney will be flexible in his budget process. That is the way he governed in Mass, and I think he will d the same thing as president. The only thing that will be off the table is any kind of raise in taxes, at least in his first term. But certainly some elements of the Ryan plan will be implemented as many in the republican controlled house support it. This would be true if Obama wins as well, albeit to a lesser degree. But the Democrats will likely control the Senate, so there will have to be some compromises with them as well.

Fwiw, I don't really know what Romney will do. Both he and Obama will likely have the same problem (a divided congress). But Romney does have one advantage over Obama. A democratic controlled Senate will be more likely to compromise with Romney than a republican controlled house with Obama.

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 08:48 PM

Ronald Reagan moved the ball a bit, Obama has the potential to move the ball a bit.

None of the other presidents in our lifetime have done all that much other than these two.

Most of the media attention and our lack of knowledge make us think that Joe Biden cannot tie his own shoes, same with Palin, now Ryan, Romney and anyone else who runs for public office. The ignorant public will make all kinds of politics viable.

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 09:18 PM

I nominate PornShopClerk to be president. Who is with me?


Now there is a candidate I can get behind. Wink wink.


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